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[-] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 48 points 5 months ago

The United States government is admitting to deliberately promoting the spread of COVID-19.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 5 months ago
[-] HumongousChungus@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago

If it wasn't clear from the Biden/Trump plan of "flattening the curve" and "supported (lol) isolation for the vulnerable"

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I am sure other global south comrades can tell but this was not only done in philipines. In mexico there was propaganda spread about the sinovac too, the elites literall flew to the US to vaccinare themselves with pfizer or whatever instead of taking sinovac and much people simply refused to vaccinate because it was chinese.

This was a global campaign.

[-] Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 5 months ago

I can't fucking believe they admitted to that.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 5 months ago
[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

Probably because the people who actually pay attention will either handwave it away or say it’s a good thing

[-] FuckBigTech347@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 5 months ago

The information in this is surreal considering it was published by a bourgeois news outlet. It almost makes me feel a little uneasy because why would they suddenly not care anymore.

[-] Weyland@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 5 months ago

Maybe the current bourgeoisie also became anti-vax and they needed to remind them how things work for class solidarity?

[-] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 5 months ago

But why? I don't understand why will they print news like this after years of gaslighting people with the contrary.

[-] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 5 months ago

In the article it says they got sloppy. CIA psyops are harder to catch because they don't leave such blatant evidence.

[-] Munrock@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 5 months ago

The US has already done so much harm to my family in the Philippines by propping up Marcos Sr., and now this.

They are monsters.

[-] KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 5 months ago

They have blood on their hands

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 5 months ago

The article still manages to paint China as the bad guy and gets in a few shots at Russia. Look at this:

Beijing didn’t limit its global influence efforts to propaganda. It announced an ambitious COVID assistance program, which included sending masks, ventilators and its own vaccines – still being tested at the time – to struggling countries. In May 2020, Xi announced that the vaccine China was developing would be made available as a “global public good,” and would ensure “vaccine accessibility and affordability in developing countries.” Sinovac was the primary vaccine available in the Philippines for about a year until U.S.-made vaccines became more widely available there in early 2022.

Xi you sneaky mf. Propaganda of the deed with Chinese characteristics.

Fr, though, the US is run by truly, truly despicable people. The US could've chosen not to limit its global influence efforts to propaganda or straightforward coercion but instead it doubled down. Not content with murdering 1 million of it's own, it killed countless others in the shadows. For anyone wondering whether the US ruling class would rather destroy the planet with nukes than change it's ways or give up power, there's your answer.

[-] Hyperlich@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 5 months ago

It sounds like they're not just admitting to this, but admitting to creating thousands of accounts on all US controlled social media platforms since 2001 to influence everyone.

Why are they admitting this?

Why is Reuters claiming that propagandizing Americans was not allowed when, I believe, the patriot act gave them permission to do just that? And it's very obvious lots of users on Reddit, Twitter, YouTube etc all glow so bright you could light a city?

I feel this is sort of a damage control thing. Admitting to something they perceive as less horrible (with lame justifications) in order to continue hiding the larger campaign being performed on the English speaking internet. Like a sort of "ok we're bad, we did this thing and we admit it, there is nothing else we're hiding ok?"

I recall operation songbird (?) was this exact thing?

I don't have any sources, just what I remember. So please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Also why is the military the ones doing this? Does the CIA outsource their dumber operations to the military?

And once again why are they even admitting to any of this?

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 5 months ago

Because by admitting to it, they can pretend to be "transparent" and can say "those evil bad guy countries never admit to anything like this." It's like how redditors started joking about how a CIA agent watches their every move and then just...didn't do anything about it. An intense violation of their personal freedom that they claim to love, and they were joking about how it's totally fine to have a government agent watch their every move. It normalises this sort of police state where every thought and opinion is carefully controlled. That's why they admit to it, because they know that despite all the American's bluster about "freedom" they will always fold and accept whatever "big government" is doing.

[-] die_livster@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 5 months ago

Why is Reuters claiming that propagandizing Americans was not allowed when, I believe, the patriot act gave them permission to do just that?

us dod is only legally allowed to conduct psyop domestically during national emergencies - such as covid.

I recall operation songbird (?) was this exact thing?

mockingbird was the recruitment of news journalists, media figures, left wing commentators, etc. (so the parallel would be the authors of this article)

Also why is the military the ones doing this? Does the CIA outsource their dumber operations to the military?

most us psyop falls under the military

And once again why are they even admitting to any of this?

a few guesses at motives: 1// you noted that they aren't allowed to target us audiences and they make it clear in the article. 2// concealing their capabilities - the images & text posts they show are unsophisticated. they say facebook employees easily identified posts. 3// they lay the blame on trump, biden is the dod's preferred candidate.

my paranoid stoner ass best effort anyway

[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 5 months ago

You just can see some level of shock going through r/news for instance. And just very sad comments of actual people losing touch with their actual families, mothers, etc because the US just had to fuck up some shit. It's sad to see, and I hope it is a new wake up call for many.

[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 5 months ago

And then you have some literal insane Reddit brains saying: yes but it was under Trump! (And months under Biden too for that matter) so they can act as if everything is good now.

[-] LaBellaLotta@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah i see that too and it truly misses the point that this is just what the CIA exists to do and always has done; Put American capital and its interests above all else and pursue them at all costs. The correct response to this is to dismantle the CIA as is long overdue anyway but that is obviously out of the question for anyone even close to the power to do that

[-] FullCommie@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 5 months ago

But at what cost!?

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 5 months ago

As a payback for being outed as the actual origin of the strain, deliberately promote its spread. The US is so comically evil, holy shit

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 19 points 5 months ago

So much suffering for so little gain.

[-] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago
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