Actually, there are also bikes you can use with an app but curiously you don't see kids doing reckless shit with those, almost as if electric scooters were uniquely terrible
So what do you figure the magical compound in E-Scooters is here?
They should either lower maximum speed those things go to 15 km/h or actually build road infrastructure for them, and ban users who leave them in the middle of the road, those things are a menace
On the one hand you have people living in walkable cities that almost universally hate the e-scooter.
On the other you have a bunch of americans who have managed to grasp the concept "car bad", but have not moved on to the "why" and are thus stuck at not comprehending why people might take issue with the way E-scooters take up public space.
In this situation you chose an example where a car was involved sadly, so your overarching point will not be interrogated, but I just want to say: I agree with you. E-scooters fucking suck, they make life much worse for pedestrians and bicyclists. Traffic here (speaking as a bicyclist) has gotten much better since they've been banned from downtown.
the kid example is kind of grasping at straws, but in my experience, scooter rider dudes are the absolute worst sort of people who make commuting unsafe for everyone. everyday i have to deal with some jackass acting unsafe while i'm cycling like a normal person following the rules.
This is just the dirtbike discourse from a few days ago all over again. Reposting this thread which I hope helps make some of the scooter-brained users here understand why people are against e-scooter implementation in public infrastructure.
Good urban planning isn't when "you get to go fast on an e-scooter and any impediment to this is bad". There's a reason people are arguing for 15-minute cities instead of ceding roads to scooters and it isnt because they hate fun.
Read up on "Practice Theory". A good entry point is Making Mobilities Matter.
E-scooters have far more accidents than bikes. Rideshare e-scooters have a lifespan of 9-18 months, they are not sustainable. The alternative to an e-scooter is not a car, it is a bike or public transport. E-scooters can work, but as they are implemented in the west they don't, which is why people critique them. Yes we should change our society, this doesn't mean we should hand over the shattered remains of public infrastructure to techbro parasites.
Yeah those e scooters are wack. So are those like unicycle things. On a bicycle youre seated high up, and you have 2 big wheels and the bike itself. You're much more visible.
On a scooter it just looks like you're standing up at a glance so cars/buses/trucks are so much less likely to notice you.
Sounds like the problem is people driving cars, busses and trucks and being shit at it
NGL the electric unicycles seem dangerous regardless of cars and vehicles. I still think they're cool as hell but I'm too much of a coward to try them at any real speed
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