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Here we go, the first Presidential debate between Biden and Trump begins at 9 PM Eastern/6 PM Pacific.

How to watch it:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/25/politics/how-to-watch-cnn-debate/index.html

"The CNN Presidential Debate will air live on CNN, CNN International and CNN en Español, and via streaming on Max for subscribers and without a cable login on CNN.com. CNN will make the debate available to simulcast on additional broadcast and cable news networks.

You can also follow CNN’s live debate coverage on CNN.com, which will include analysis and fact checking."

"According to parameters set by CNN in May, all participating debaters had to appear on a sufficient number of state ballots to reach the 270 electoral vote threshold to win the presidency and receive at least 15% in four separate national polls of registered or likely voters that meet CNN’s standards for reporting.

Polls that meet those standards are those sponsored by CNN, ABC News, CBS News, Fox News, Marquette University Law School, Monmouth University, NBC News, The New York Times/Siena College, NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist College, Quinnipiac University, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post."

Edit And that's it! Thanks for watching everyone!

tl;dw:

Consensus is Trump didn't so much as beat Biden as Biden beat himself.

The real loser is CNN who failed to fact check anyone, and there were obvious fact checks on both sides.

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[-] Vivendi@lemmy.zip 11 points 5 months ago

We Iranians are going to get Pezeshkian and you Americans are going to get Trump

FUN 4 YEARS COMING BOYS

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[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Does Biden sound sick to anybody else? Like he has a sore throat?

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

To me he sounds like his throat is sore from talking. He's been campaigning a lot.

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[-] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago

FUCK YOU.

  • Minneapolis resident
[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

This just makes me so uncomfortable. Trump isn't going to win this election, Biden is going to lose it.

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 10 points 5 months ago

Good news. Biden might be getting angry enough to go super Saiyan. Won't be good for the talking points but those are out the window with the endless lies anyway.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Good lord all trump does is do “this guy over here…” bs and drags up every right wing meme piece of “fact”, and they’re all garbage.

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[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Trump still doesn't understand tariffs.

[-] thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Neither do his voters.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago
[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

They lowered expectations for Trump way too much.

And if Biden doesn’t get it together immediately, it’s time to consider a new candidate. This is a disaster so far.

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[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

This abortion response started good... and then he just lost it. My god he's so fucking old.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

So Trump's going to be reelected. I don't even know if I want to keep watching this this is just sad

[-] soratoyuki@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Sooooooo... if this is what has finally shaken your faith in American bourgeoisie democracy, good news (sorta)! Alternatives exist, although the struggle to achieve them will be long and arduous. Our current system of propping up billionaire-approved octogenarians to give ~~our stolen wealth~~ tax breaks and investment incentives to defense contractors, cops, and landlords exists very explicitly to preserve a system of private property that keeps you poor and desperate.

The alternative to this is to build class consciousness and working class power in order to contest this awful system and put political and economic power directly in the hands of the working class before our impending environmental collapse. Join an organization that exists locally that's building that working class power. Seriously, don't even get caught up on which -ism best fits you, just join whatever exists locally that you can contribute to. Democratic Socialists of America, the Party for Socialism and Liberation, Socialist Alternative, the Industrial Workers of the World, Food Not Bombs, even a small community mutual aide network that supports a few of your unhoused neighbors.

This debate should be your wake-up call. The state is a fuck and you're just a sacrificial pawn in a system designed to funnel wealth upwards. It's a big club and you ain't in it.

[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

You’re not wrong but you’re not providing any solutions either (but I won’t blame you - there aren’t any); several states have closed primaries that disallow 3rd party candidates.

Politics is local.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Let’s say Biden doesn’t make it to the election. Who would the democrats put forward? Harris?

[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Gavin Newsome has been positioning himself to be able to run.

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[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

I’m curious to see how quickly the Dems will get a new candidate.

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[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

It is just Bullshit bullshit bullshit out of Trump. It's fucking wild.

[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Biden has to bring up Trump killing the border bill for political reasons. That should have been a top 3 talking point.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

I really wish Americans weren't ignorant enough to fall for someone who looks better on TV even though they're a convicted felon who tried to undermine and overthrow a free and fair election, but history tells me otherwise.

I seriously hope there are high level discussions within the Democratic party and with Biden about putting someone else forward.

[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

“You are a child.”

A moment of unscripted honesty.

[-] vladmech@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

“Ushered in by the police” CNN is a failed news organization for allowing this to be said unchallenged

[-] Roldyclark@literature.cafe 8 points 5 months ago

Afraid to watch thanks for summarizing for me yall lol

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Ouch. That last one hurt. Biden started strong on that answer, but lost the thread.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Biden is not speaking well and is making a number of mis-statements and wavering.

Trump is the personification of confidentlywrong, but he's speaking much more strongly.

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