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[-] hannesh93@feddit.org 67 points 7 months ago

Who is seriously surprised that trump is unhinged in that conflict, too? He's best buddy with Netanyahu and put fire to the conflict by moving the embassy basically burying the two state solution in the process

[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 5 points 7 months ago

It is pretty funny he's more willing to tell the truth on the conflict than Biden, though lol. The rest of the debate was lies, but he's willing to tell the truth on how much he loved genocide.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago

Fascists love Trump because he says the quiet part out loud.

Liberals hate Trump because... he says the quiet part out loud.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

I'm pretty sure it's more than the liberals that hate him...

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Oh, I hate Trump too... but for very different reasons than liberals do.

[-] snek@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

We live on a clown planet.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

For those that missed it https://youtu.be/KbOet85eiFI?si=Z3VGPYrKTCfDj3-5&t=180

[+] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -27 points 7 months ago

26% of Americans agree with Biden on Israel...

And that includes Republicans.

It's not enough to be less pro-genocide than republicans

Dem voters have standards, and Republicans won't accept less genocide when there's another option.

There's zero benefit to Biden

[+] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -40 points 7 months ago

Democrats went from ridiculing Republicans for voting for their red god emperor no matter what.

Now they're willing to vote for their blue god emperor that's bragging about how much he loves supporting Genocide.

[-] Korne127@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago

That comparison is embarrassingly dumb. People ridicule Republicans because it's an insane cult where he basically controls the party and people openly disagreeing to him have lost almost all positions. Nothing like that is true for Biden. People want to vote for Biden, because he's not fucking trying to overturn democracy and remove the rights of all minorities and you have a dumb political system in which you have only two choices.

[-] entropicshart@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

The two choices chosen by greedy cunts is the root of the problem here.

[+] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The Democratic party kicked out Jamaal Bowman and collectively endorsed Latimer because Bowman was critical of israel. It's get in line for israel or get booted. Against the party's supposed principles of "endorsing the incumbent".

Biden is a hardcore religious Genocidal Zionist complicit in Genocide. But only Democrats could ignore this massive elephant in the room as if it doesn't exist and pretend everyone should ignore it with them.

Imagine thinking January 6 is worse than literal Genocide. That was the bar used to ridicule Trump voters. Now both are lower than that yet you only continue to ridicule Trump. Not to mention AIPAC is funded by Republicans. So a vote for Biden is a vote for Republicans anyways.

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Biden is a hardcore religious Genocidal Zionist complicit in Genocide. But only Democrats could ignore this massive elephant in the room as if it doesn't exist and pretend everyone should ignore it with them.

Nobody is ignoring anything. In a first-past-the-post system like we have, a third party candidate cannot win. It's virtually impossible. We simply see reality, and would prefer to have a chance of avoiding genocide instead of helping Trump guarantee it.

Your righteous anger is ultimately working against your stated cause. Stop indirectly supporting Trump.

[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network -1 points 7 months ago

You can't avoid a genocide actively ongoing by the incumbent on stage.

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

No, but your choices are to stay where we are or make it worse. Those are your only two choices, and your stated position is the latter.

[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I didn't say my position. I'm just saying that you saying that we can avoid a genocide by voting for Biden is a lie. I wasn't really making any wider comment, just on that statement specifically.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Your denial of reality is working against my stated cause. Stop directly supporting Genocide.

[-] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago

I'm not voting for biden. I'm voting against trump and for the people biden has in his cabinet and his staff.

[-] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Real

[+] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -24 points 7 months ago

After this debate the only reason to vote for Biden is to make sure a third party can't beat Trump.

Biden is 100% donezo.

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Which third party is on enough ballots to get to the 270 required?

[+] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -8 points 7 months ago

Both parties are intentionally stalling the ballot access of third parties so they wouldn't be able to participate in the debate.

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Ah. So you have complaints and your answer is a protest vote so that Trump wins. Got it.

I don't care to interact with you further.

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

So your answer is "nobody?" Cool, keep supporting Trump, I guess.

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

The person you're replying to sure is elevating the thread with their "I'm rubber, you're glue" conversational gambit.

I can't tell if they're young and idealistic (entirely understandable), a brainwashed moron (being a moron isn't required for brainwashing, but it helps), or a shill. Their "no, you" remark makes me think it's a kid. If so that fire will serve them well someday, even if it's currently misplaced.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -4 points 7 months ago

You're supporting Trump.

[-] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Hey, when was the last time a third party won an election for the presidency in a presidential election? Oh 1860 and one of the major political parties at the time split its voting base among north/south lines and promptly died as a result leading once again to a 2 party system?

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

So once every 50 elections one party gets so bad that everyone abandons ship.

I have a feeling it might be time for that 2%

[-] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

My point is that third parties aren't able to win in our current voting system unless one party literally rips itself in half, in which case the system immediately goes back to a 2 party system when the ripped party inevitably dies off. And that party didn't dies from people abandoning ship, it died because it ran 2 candidates for presidency

Third parties literally cannot exist based on the way our government is set up.

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Now they're willing to vote for their blue god emperor that's bragging about how much he loves supporting Genocide.

So your plan is to either vote for Trump and guarantee genocide, or vote third party, helping Trump gain office, and guaranteeing genocide?

Cool, great plan, that obviously ends super well for everyone involved.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -4 points 7 months ago

Explain how voting for Biden isn't guaranteed Genocide without saying something racist.

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Biden is open to outside opinions, and has not outwardly said things like "finish them off," or "finish the job," or "I'd give them all the weapons we have."

Your choice is between Biden and Trump, no matter how badly we all want that to not be the case. Stop supporting the worse option just because you're mad at the world and want chaos to rule.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Yea. Biden has condemned it in a public fashion. Like saying he isn't doing anything is just not factual.

[-] boywar3@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

How many Palestinians are gonna be killed by a Trump presidency vs a Biden presidency?

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