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submitted 4 months ago by Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net to c/games@hexbear.net

My only exposure to The Witcher is from the ~~advertisement~~ crossover quest in Monster Hunter World. The quest was cracking me up the whole time because Geralt was so stereotypical "cool grizzled guy" in his dialogue and voice acting that I half expected him to say "Psssh… Nothin Personnel… Kid…"

Is he this much of a weenie in The Witcher 3 or did Monster Hunter do him dirty?

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[-] SoylentSnake@hexbear.net 32 points 4 months ago

he's actually secretly a softie who loves his friends and is everyone's grouchy dad but it takes a bit to figure this out and at a glance he can feel like shadow the hedgehog levels of edgycool

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Word. Idk how well it works in the game, but a lot of his aloof badass persona is Geralt coping with being an outsider in a violent, bigoted world. His long life, education, outsider status as a mutant, and regular contact with all kinds of people from different cultures gives him perspective that most normal folks don't have.

He's a smart, farily compassionate dude with superpowers in a world where trying to use his superpowers to help the oppressed and change things would very quickly get him and the people he loves killed. He's snarky and superficially cynical to try to protect himself from the weight of that.

But even in the first short story collection he shows that he does care for people deeply, is deeply wounded by bigotry and injustice, and has seen enough weird shit that he judges "monsters" only by who they've hurt and why.

It is an extremely macho series in many ways, but Geralt is the gruff badass with a heart of gold character rather than just edgelord badass. But he deliberately plays up the edgelord badass thing both to protect his own psyche and to create a legendary impression among the normal humans he interacts with that somewhat protects him from their bigotry and violence.

Also, it's been a while, but I think a large part of the reason all the cool ladies want to bang him is that he's genuinely a smart, respectful dude who takes women seriously. Being a gorgeous muscleboy who can't get sick, hence can't give you the clap, and can't make you pregnant doesn't hurt either.

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago

I think Witcher 2 does a pretty cool job of fleshing this out, Witcher 3 relies more on the "omg cool swords and bewbz" that it's harder to see the characterization

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I never played 3, and didn't finish 2, but I remember being really impressed with the characterization and some of the storylines in two. It was ages though so I don't remember specifics.

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You're better off, i think. If I remember correctly, 2 ends with some "genociders and resistance just as bad" lib-ass take. It doesn't detract from the characters, but it's just a dumb plot.

[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

The whole universe reeks with liberalism

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

It's unavoidable, really. The whole thing was written by a middle-aged, cranky Polish man.

[-] Stoatmilk@hexbear.net 25 points 4 months ago

He is a bit of a dork, but it's written like that on purpose. He is like a Sonic OC level of fantasy cool guy, but in a world that does not tolerate that kind of fantasy fulfillment, often leading to him being the butt of the joke.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

In that case, that sounds awesome.

Reminds me a bit of how Cloud Strife tries to be cool and everyone just kind of humours him lol.

[-] SupFBI@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

Wind is howling

[-] Gorb@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

He is canonically shadow the hedgehog

Has amnesia 👍

Edgelord 👍

Iblis trigger 👍

John Witcher 👍

Conclusion: weenie

[-] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

People comparing him to Shadow The Hedgehog as means of insult do not deserve the great character that is Shadow The Hedgehog.

[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The character tastes like cardboard, I never played W1, havent finished W2 nor W3 and am stuck at Blood of the Elves novel.

The novels suck ass.

[-] booty@hexbear.net 21 points 4 months ago

The novels are good and Geralt is actually a fantastic character with quite a bit of depth.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

It definitely helps in the first novel if you go in knowing they're all twisted tales versions of famous fairy tales.

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I've told people it has more in common with Shrek than Game of Thrones lol

[-] red_stapler@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

The two genders

[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[-] booty@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Well I like them a lot, but if you've made it to Blood of Elves in release order (meaning you've read two entire books already) and you still don't like it, you're probably not going to. Sapkowski can be a pretty dry writer and if you're reading the English translation that problem is significantly increased because Sapkowski's prose in Polish is a selling point.

If you're stuck at the beginning of Blood of Elves and just don't like that part specifically but you did like the first two books, then maybe do keep reading, because Blood of Elves marks the point at which Sapkowski shifted from short stories to a real Epic Quest™ and Blood of Elves does take a while to get around to actually setting it up.

If you started with Blood of Elves then no wonder you think the novels suck, start at the beginning lol

[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The two first books of short stories were for moments fine and for moments sucked immensely and the timeline was all fucked and weird but eh want to know the lore

Blood of Elves seemed very nice at first cuz the dude finally dropped the short story format

Ooh and the Dol Blatana short story, that shit was so fucking awful. And Blood of Elves seems like in yhe same vein so that's why I dropped, right after Triss got diarrhea

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

W1 is wildly misogynistic, even for mid 2000s freeze-gamer standards, not to mention it's pretty shit in every way except maybe the story. It's really not worth playing.

I liked W2 mostly because of the characters and an engaging gameplay that was simple but not boring.

I never could get into W3. It's a beautiful looking world, but it's so immature and wish fulfill-y that I dropped it.

[-] Ericthescruffy@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

Geralt is the reason I have never been able to get into the Witcher series. By all accounts the Witcher 3 is one of the greatest RPGs of all time with an insane amount of depth but I just can't get over the fact that I have no choice to play a character that reads like a 15 year olds checklist of hyper cool masculinity. I get that the character has been around for a while and it wasn't so much a cliche when he was first written but sheesh....I just have a hard time taking him seriously.

[-] ihaveibs@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

Honestly l was worried about that but actually came away fairly pleasantly surprised by his characterization when I played through the game. Although it's definitely undercut by the epic bewbz shit they like to put in these kinds of games

[-] Philosophosphorous@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago

hes fantasy batman crossed with forest gump, a mary sue 'the best ever at fighting' character and master detective who 'tries to stay out of politics' but ends up being involved in every important thing that ever happens anywhere, and gets the opportunity to fuck every woman mage in the land. every person in the setting that isn't also a witcher or a mage rightfully sees him as an inhuman monster, it does the x-men thing where it portrays the superhuman monster-people as 'oppressed minorities', meanwhile accidentally justifying their oppression by making them actually materially physically very dangerous to those around them. early in the 3rd game these 3 human guys will team up on the witcher for making a politically controversial statement, expecting a bit of a scuffle or fist fight brawl, and he decapitates them all with his superhuman sword skills. they were unarmed.

[-] booty@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

'the best ever at fighting'

he gets crippled by a mage with a stick. he gets killed by a peasant with a pitchfork. he is repeatedly put on the back foot by regular ass dudes.

every person in the setting that isn't also a witcher or a mage rightfully sees him as an inhuman monster

he's literally just a human, the myth that witchers are some kind of monster comes from the fact that many of them turned to banditry in order to survive because they had already hunted all the monsters (there are a finite number of monsters in the world since they are extradimensional beings that don't breed). geralt is constantly starving because he doesn't have any money because he's above banditry.

[-] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago

Don't be mean, he's just autistic (fairly certain this isn't true, but he is easy to read as an allegory for neurodivergence)

[-] tombruzzo@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago
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