Biden Offered No Alternative to Trump’s Pro-Policing Authoritarianism in Debate (truthout.org)

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Donald Trump's overarching narrative for the debate was that Joe Biden has diminished U.S. power by opening the border and allowing millions of "Illegal immigrants" released "From prisons, jails and mental institutions" to come into the country to "Take our jobs," overwhelm our health care and Social Security systems, and rape and kill us.

Rather than pointing out Trump's utter lack of concern for people's well-being, Biden's rebuttal fell into the trap of trying to respond to Trump's tirades, allowing the former president to control the agenda and tone of the debate.

Trump used this as an opportunity to point out how little progress has been made under Biden and that Biden helped drive these disparities through his embrace of the "Superpredator" myth in the 1990s.

While many in the Biden administration and its key constituencies favor dialing back criminalization, they feel that it is politically impossible to state that clearly and openly, leaving the president to quietly support some good programs, while publicly leaning into a police-centered crime control strategy that will never be able to compete with Trump's undiluted authoritarianism.

Biden's weak policies and incoherent responses during the debate may give us another four years of Trump and his drive to turn the U.S. into a despotic kleptocracy.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago

No shit. He's been pro-police for years.

You know what he hasn't done? Pledged to be a dictator.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 years ago

Such an ignorant, lazy take.

How the heck are they complaining about biden's take on immigration when he increased the border control budget so much despite Republican protests against border control?

What happened is the opposite of what this article is talking about.

"Biden's weak policies and incoherent responses during the debate may give us another four years of Trump"

No, the election May give us another 4 years of trump.

It's an election.

Biden has very strong immigration policies, this article doesn't know what it's talking about.

[+] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[+] NoSuchAgency@lemdro.id -20 points 2 years ago

It's CNN, hardly a right leaning news organization

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I would point out that CNN has become increasingly right leaning this past decade, but I recognize your username as one of the unfortunate few right-wing types that has inexplicably decided to dip your toes into the Fediverse.

Don't really think you're welcome here.

[+] NoSuchAgency@lemdro.id -22 points 2 years ago

Strong immigration policies? It took him 3.5 years to do anything about the border after undoing everything Trump had in place. And Republicans were the first ones that came up with a border plan that would actually work called HR2. Dems shut it down.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Remember when the Democrats offered the Republicans every single thing they wanted on immigration and they voted against it because Trump wanted them to?

Oops. Guess they could have gotten their border plan that you claim would have worked and decided to not do it because it wasn't politically expedient.

[-] NoSuchAgency@lemdro.id -4 points 2 years ago

Wrong. They didn't offer Republicans everything they wanted. That's just completely false. HR2 was a much better bill at getting the border under control, or even just reinstating the executive actions Trump had in place before Biden took office.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Ah, the "we didn't get a rainbow and a pony" defense.

[-] NoSuchAgency@lemdro.id -4 points 2 years ago

You're just repeating the MSM talking points. Keep drinking the koolaid

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Dude, you're regurgitating shit from an AI as if it's true. You have no room to criticize anyone's so-called talking points.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Republicans: we don't know, separate children from their families, let some of the kids die, cause generational trauma while withholding funding and processing.

Biden: let's clean up the Republican mess again, institute fair and rational expedited immigration processing with limited capacity per day that keeps families together.

Trump did immigration "first" If you pretend he had a sound immigration policy, which he didn't, he preferred detention and ignoring the problem, and you also ignore every president before him and then also you laud irresponsible choices that harm people and cost more money.

[-] NoSuchAgency@lemdro.id -4 points 2 years ago

Trump kept a lot of them out of the country, and you're pretty naive if you think kids aren't getting separated from families or getting killed now. Human a sex trafficking are at an all time high right now. And detention at least kept them from killing and raping our citizens.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 years ago

I mean, not trying to bash Biden, just being fucking honest here.

What did people expect from the guy who responded to years of anti-police protests that were basically asking "please stop killing us" that were responded to by police by becoming a police riot by... *checks notes... massively increasing police budgets nationwide.

[-] TerkErJerbs@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

What's this? The architect of the 1994 crime bill who helped the Dems get elected on a platform further right than the GOP on policing and prisons is pro-police? Huh. TIL.

[+] NoSuchAgency@lemdro.id -16 points 2 years ago

Garbage article. Trump passed a crime bill President Donald Trump signed the First Step Act into law in 2018, a bipartisan bill aimed at reforming the criminal justice system. The act was a significant step towards addressing the issues of mass incarceration, sentencing reform, and reentry programs.

Key Provisions:

Eliminated the “three strikes” life sentencing provision for some offenses
Expanded judges’ discretion in sentencing for non-violent crimes
Made the sentencing guidelines of the Obama-era Fair Sentencing Act of 2010 retroactive
Required the Attorney General to develop a risk and needs assessment system to assess the recidivism risk and criminogenic needs of federal prisoners
Provided funding for rehabilitative programs to help inmates successfully reenter society

Impact:

The First Step Act has helped to reduce the number of people in federal prison
The act has also expanded access to rehabilitative programs, which has led to a decrease in recidivism rates
The law has provided a second chance for many individuals who were previously incarcerated, allowing them to reintegrate into society and find employment

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