Germany summons Turkish ambassador as row erupts over alleged right-wing salute goal celebration at Euro 2024 (edition.cnn.com)

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[-] FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 17 points 4 months ago

Wow I'm clueless. At a quick glance it looks like the devil horns metal fans make

[-] Gloria@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 months ago

It is offered with an outstretched arm, which is similar to other fascist, right-wing extremist organizations, and represents a stylized wolf's head: the outstretched fingers are the ears, the other fingers form the snout. The deceased founder Alparslan Türkeş, who is worshipped as Başbuğ, is mystically revered.

Grey Wolves is the name given to Turkish right-wing extremists such as members of the Nationalist Movement Party (MHP) or the Great Unity Party (BBP). They have committed numerous acts of violence and murders in the past, especially in the 1970s.

In Germany, the party is represented by three umbrella organizations, which include around 303 clubs nationwide with more than 18,500 members. This makes it the largest right-wing extremist organization in Germany.

[-] nexusband@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

As a Metalhead, that's a VERY different gesture 🤘

[-] Copernican@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

My first thought was "I havent seen that in. A sporting context since WCW NWO Wolf Pack was a thing." But fuck this guy.

[+] absquatulate@lemmy.world -45 points 4 months ago

Overreacting much? Are we really that sensitive that they have to summon the ambassador for every asshole that makes a rude gesture?

[-] psvrh@lemmy.ca 62 points 4 months ago

Yes. Because as we've seen, sunlight is not a good disinfectant for this kind of thing. Because "sunlight" results in these ideas can get visibility and by association, traction.

Naziism needs to be stomped on whenever, wherever and however it sleazes out from the sewer. Karl Popper made this very clear.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This isnt very far from making a hitler salute, so no, definitely not an overreaction and much more than a "rude" gesture. Kicking out the whole team over this wouldnt be unreasonable. The group that uses this is categorized as a terroristic organization and is banned in many EU states.

[-] Phineaz@feddit.org 18 points 4 months ago

If a German footballer made the Nazi-Salute after scoring a goal in Poland and Germany endorsed the movement the footballer is a member of, would you still think so?

[-] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

It is the right move. Everything aside, this is a political symbol that has no place in football. With everything considered, it is a symbol used by the extremist arms of a right-wing, nationalist party, which is known for its gang-like political killings in the 80s. Their ideology is closer to phrenology.

It is a fascist symbol and nothing else. Unfortunately it is not shunned as such, usually due to lack of official association, but definitely has no place in either an international display or for kids who have no idea about the history of those who use it.

[-] genfood@feddit.org 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It is obviously a reaction to Ankara's shitshow, they conjured yesterday the German ambassador, and accused Germany of being xenophobic. Just to ensure that we share the same foundation, the condemnation of right-wing extremist gestures, is the opposite of being xenophobic.

So yes, that’s a necessary witchcraft to beat the gray forces.

[-] Visstix@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No the germans didn't summon the ambassador over the gesture. Turkey summoned the german ambassador cause germany wanted to investigate if the gesture was a symbol of hate (which is a big no no in germany). So the germans now summoned the turkish ambassador over the whole situation.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

You do know what Germany did in the mid-20th century, right?

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