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[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago

Nintendo will be playing Whack-A-Mole with Yuzu forks and Switch emulators forever.

I hope these developers can continue to waste Nintendo's time and money even more.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 21 points 1 year ago

Is it really a waste of Nintendo's time and money if they keep winning?

[-] amio@kbin.run 20 points 1 year ago

Winning is relative, they can't stop distribution if the creators are careful about it.

[-] bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Them issuing C&D after C&D costs their legal team time and money they could be using to, idk, trademark new IPs or license third parties for libraries and music. It also hurts their PR.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago
[-] bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I know, I know. Just making a point. They could be doing better things that actually build good faith.

[-] FarmTaco@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

maybe in theory, but the Nintendo coffers wont be running dry any time soon.

[-] aksdb@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

They keep paying money for attorneys and court proceedings but don't get anything in return, since the code is out there and will just be shared again by someone else. Hence: whack-a-mole

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

They keep winning the cases themselves in courts very much rigged in their favor, sure, but for each headline, they risk alienating more gamers who don't appreciate them bullying comparatively tiny sites who are just providing games that Nintendo themselves refuse to sell.

[-] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gamers are only capable of remembering these things right up until the next first-party exclusive and new console gets announced. Then, it's right back to opening their wallets for these fuckers.

The only way to truly win this fight is for the devs to face potentially life-ruining circumstances to fight it in court. Until then, Nintendo will continue harassing devs and killing the development progress of emulators.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The only way to truly win this fight is for the devs to face potentially life-ruining circumstances to fight it in court

So you're saying we release lions in the courtroom?

..oh wait, life-RUINING. Hmm.. Including their browser histories in discovery?

I still don't see how punishing the already victimized helpers is supposed to solve anything..

[-] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why are you being so obtuse? Yes, the repercussions for losing to Nintendo in court are life-ruining. I said that already.

However, continuing to let Nintendo DMCA legitimate emulation projects isn't good in the long-term either and only stalls progress for the targeted projects.

The only way to "win" this fight is to win in court. I'm not saying that any dev should be compelled against their will to do so. It's just the only way to actually make progress. This isn't a technical problem; it's a legal one.

[-] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Maybe some, maybe even most, but as a blanket statement, no.

I buy games and consoles but haven’t bought an Ubisoft or EA title in a decade. My own personal little boycott against bullshit required launchers may not matter, but I am consistent. I suspect others do the same as well and in aggregate, it might have an impact.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I honestly thought the ads for the new Zelda looked kinda cool, but I’m sworn off them now because of what they did to Garry’s Mod.

[-] lmaydev@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

If a new one just pops up going after the previous one was indeed pointless.

[-] Nima@leminal.space 3 points 1 year ago

i can go to thousands of places and download yuzu right now. without even trying.

they are doing nothing but wasting their own time and giving their own brand a poor image in the process.

[-] scutiger@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

A company like Nintendo definitely has a law firm on retainer. They're paying them whether or not they're being used. There's no waste of money happening by going after "IP violations."

A waste of time and energy, perhaps. But the lawyers are getting the same money whether they do this or nothing at all.

[-] Schmeckinger@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Having the keys on their official website to download seems a bit risky. We don't provide the keys on github, so we will fight the DMCA, but use this media fire link to download them...

[-] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 1 year ago

When will people learn that GitHub isn’t the place to put code that was previously removed from there?

[-] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Is Sudachi a Yuzu fork?

[-] richmondez@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Why aren't Nintendo bothering ryujinx like this?

[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Shut up. Don't give them any more ideas, please.

[-] lmaydev@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They'd be going after them if they thought they could. I'm sure they'll find a reason eventually.

[-] Virkkunen@fedia.io 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yuzi provided means to grab keys and firmware from a Switch console, which seems to be a big red flag and a reason why Nintendo went after them. Sudachi also has guides and download links for decryption keys and Switch firmware. From what I can see ryujinx only provides some guides on how to get the keys from a Switch but no apparent download links or "shortcuts"

Besides, we should not be pointing fingers at emulator devs. Companies are not your friend, we're just a means to profit for them.

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It's also suspected that Yuzu was not "clean room" reversed engineered and built on code that they shouldn't have had access to, which will allow Nintendo to pull down any fork of Yuzu but not Ryujinx.

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