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submitted 4 months ago by erev@lemmy.world to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

I've been around selfhosting most of my life and have seen a variety of different setups and reasons for selfhosting. For myself, I don't really self host as mant services for myself as I do infrastructure. I like to build out the things that are usually invisible to people. I host some stuff that's relatively visible, but most of my time is spent building an over engineered backbone for all the services I could theoretically host. For instance, full domain authentication and oversight with kerberized network storage, and both internal and public DNS.

The actual services I host? Mail and vaultwarden, with a few (i.e. < 3) more to come.

I absolutely do not need the level of infrastructure I need, but I honestly prefer that to the majority of possible things I could host. That's the fun stuff to me; the meat and potatoes. But I know some people do focus more on the actual useful services they can host, or on achieving specific things with their self hosting. What types of things do you host and why?

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[-] sk@hub.utsukta.org 19 points 4 months ago

Public services: my social network(hubzilla), Email(mailcow), Matrix chat, Peertube.

Private: my media (jellyfin, audiobookshelf, calibre, homeassistant.

I enjoy the freedom that comes with this and its like having your own home on the internet. I have a very modest setup but its enough to host my friends and family so nothing fancy like k8s. Just a refurbished optiplex running docker :)

[-] 0x0@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago

(How/) Do you access your private stuff from outside your home?

[-] sk@hub.utsukta.org 9 points 4 months ago

@0x0 headscale/tailscale. I have a VPS that gives me a public IP so i use that to host a headscale control plane.

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[-] earth_walker@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

I self host jellyfin, nextcloud, owncast, tandoor, komga, photoprism and searxng. I use nginx proxy manager for a reverse proxy and SSL cert automation. Works great for me but I would like to get into traefik sometime.

I self host for privacy reasons, also it's fun, it's a learning opportunity and sometimes self-hosted services are functionally better than the other options out there.

[-] zingo@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

I use nginx proxy manager for a reverse proxy and SSL cert automation. Works great for me but I would like to get into traefik sometime.

I got tired of the NPM and went to traefik for 2 reasons.

  1. NPM kept locking me out of my account (admin), like 4 times during the time I was using it. That meant that it was not reliable enough for daily use.

  2. From what I heard is that the NPM project only has 1 developer and so they can't really respond and fix security flaws in a proper timeframe.

I'm using traefik now for internal traffic while VPN in if I need internal services while out and about.

Jim's Garage has a great YouTube video on setting it up.

[-] infeeeee@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

From what I heard is that the NPM project only has 1 developer and so they can’t really respond and fix security flaws in a proper timeframe.

It's mostly just nginx with a webui. You can even see the nginx config files if you bash into the container. It has the same bugs as upstream nginx. Do not expose the management port to the internet.

Plus compared to normal nginx, it's harder to misconfigure it. Most of my services are just the default config, so I can't mess it up accidentally.

About lockouts: Once also happened me, but that was just a messed up update, next update fixed itself. If you lock yourself out you can usually edit the db directly, it defaults to sqlite, but I used it with mariadb.

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[-] neshura@bookwormstory.social 2 points 4 months ago

I self-host email, it certainly isn't something I'd recommend

[-] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah hosting email as a company is a pain. I can't imagine selhosting it. At least in a company people can search you online.

[-] neshura@bookwormstory.social 4 points 4 months ago

The worst part really is just getting off the damn spam lists. There is almost no documentation anywhere for do's and dont's. I ultimately had to setup a sending relay for the mail on my status monitoring VPS because my residential IP triggered most spam filters, but I only found out that that was the problem from forum posts investigating the same problem. I check with stuff like mail-tester, get back perfect scores and yet most of my outgoing emails have a good chance to land in the spam folder anyway (but at least they get delivered so that's a plus I guess)

As others in other threads have said: Google and Microsoft have killed the ability to self-host email simply by black-boxing their spam filters. As a user you have no real way to fix your mail server such that your emails get delivered into the inbox reliably.

[-] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 2 points 4 months ago

I feel ya. And this doesn't take in account users who put one of you mail in spam and it blacklist you for the whole org...

[-] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

(Preface: almost all of this is handled in a single Nix config, and no docker in use at all)

At home, in a two-hosts Proxmox cluster:

  • blocky for adblocking
  • a full *arr stack with torrents and nzbs for uuuuuuhhh Linux ISOs
  • Jellyfin so friends and family can watch, I mean use the Linux ISOs
  • Paperless (HIGHLY recommend)
  • Wastebin (Pastebin alternative)
  • Sterling-PDF (also really recommend, allowed me to get rid of Acrobat Reader for filling out and signing PDFs, plus a bunch more)
  • Homeassistant
  • Linux and Windows clients available for whenever you might need them (not often, but can come in handy)
  • Borg client, backing up parts of my NAS to a cloud storage box
  • OPNSense backup for the hardware firewall
  • Forgejo

On a bare metal machine at a reputable cloud provider:

  • my personal Email, Calendar, Contacts (super easy with Nix)
  • another blocky instance
  • another borg client
  • Rustdesk server (OSS Teamviewer)
  • wireguard that's just used by my TV so crunchyroll thinks it's in (other country), Lmao

Wishlist:

  • Vaultwarden
  • Immich, once added to nixpkgs
  • PeerTube
  • Pixelfed
[-] devraza@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

If you want to keep everything inside a singular Nix configuration while still using Docker, you can check out the NixOS option virtualisation.oci-containers - essentially, a declarative way of managing docker/podman containers (similar to docker-compose) but with Nix.

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[-] klassasin@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago

Any chance you could share any of your Nix config? I'm curious how it's being used with Proxmox (I'm using ansible and terraform right now).

[-] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 4 points 4 months ago

I thought about adding a link, but am a bit hesitant to de-anonymize myself on here 😅

But it's basically this:

  • Proxmox is not Nix configured. There's a project for that, but IMO t'll take a couple of years to be ready for production.
  • I've created a custom nix module that essentially just sets my default values for stuff like bios type, boot order,... And allows to set CPU cores, RAM, IP,...
  • all this does though is just setting the corresponding values from the nixos-generators proxmox output
  • additionally, all the usual stuff is handled (user, known ssh keys, base config of the system)
  • for each VM, I only have a single file containing the VM settings (ID, RAM, cpu, ip,...) and the service config for whatever the VM is for
  • then lastly I have a custom script/shell that essentially just allows to do "nixvm-new " which generates the image, moves it to the nas, and calls on proxmox to import the image, plus some cleanup

TBH this sounds way more complicated than it is / feels to use 😄

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

At the moment I am only doing jellyfin but I am looking to expand into pihole, audiobook shelf and some arr stack.

[-] node815@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

I've seen a few mentions of PiHole and AdguardHome, I started on PiHole, then moved to AdguardHome for adblocking. Then I heard about and have been using TechnitiumDNS server which is sort of overkill for our needs, but with the right ad-lists, it is fantastic at blocking advertisements on my home network. Super fast install too, even on a Raspberry Pi 2 :) I run that along with Proxmox-VE (Protected behind OIDC Login) and several other containers on my cranky old Dell Desktop server.

Mostly Vaultwarden, and a few other services for home private use such as PairDrop for inter system sharing and a self destructing file sharing server for when we need to send documents to our Attorney's (rarely but sometimes we need to) office via Pingvin.

I also run:

  • Home Assistant
  • Transmission Dockerized so I can help contribute to the Linux community and share the ISO's.
  • For some of my externalized sites, I run Authentik It acts sort of like a Reverse Proxy if you configure it to do so. I love that I can simply identify myself with my WebAuthn device skipping any passwords. :)

With Authentik setup, I can login to things like my Fresh Tomato Router TechnitiumDNS (Both use HTTP Auth headers) and Memos which uses OIDC/SSO. It's meant to replace our Google Keep notes.

  • Tailscale is installed and I connect to it from my phone when away from home to always stay on my network. Sometimes, hotspots block it so I generally avoid those as much as possible.
  • Wallos to help keep track of our re-occuring subscriptions.
  • Grafana and Promethus - both are staged and ready for configuration and one of those I will get around to eventually.
  • InfluxDB - I plan on moving Home Assistsant logging soon to that which should tie nicely into Grafana later.
  • Ben Phelps' Homepage - it's my main server dashboard my wife and I use to access our server. Quite simply one of the best dashboards IMHO.
  • Wyze Cam Bridge - One of the better services in which you can log into your Wyze cams and convert their streams to RTSP, RTMP or HLS streams easily. I have that feed to my Home Assistant Security Dashboard.
  • Baserow It's a good Airtable alternative and I use it to keep track of my Static IP assignments, Sleep tracker (I suffer from insomnia), and other data points. It's pretty amazing. I even created a pain logging for for my wife so she just accesses it and answers basic questions about her pain levels and it pushes it to the database for later retrieval.
  • Joplin Server - Sorry, I don't have the link, but it's installed via compose. I use Joplin Notes on my phone and computer for keeping my code snippets. I've tried Obsidian and it didn't really meet my needs and Also Anytype, but that's not self-hosted. Joplin server is for me and that's become handy a time or two when on the road.
  • Bookstack - my grand plan for that is to build a Wiki for my family to use in the event something should happen to me, they can know how to manage the server with nice screenshots and instructional steps. I have that protected behind Authentik's OIDC logins.
  • IT-Tools - hands down one of the coolest self hosted tool sets you can use.
  • Webcheck - All-in-one OSINT tool for analyzing any website https://web-check.xyz/ is their demo site. :)
  • Stirling PDF - Kind of like a Swiss-army knife for PDF's. :)
  • Dozzle - For those times with you really need to see what your Docker logs and too lazy do run a docker logs -follow command.

I still use Portainer-CE and am happy there, I may try Dockage or the others, but it's fine for what I need it for (It's also protected by OIDC)

I'm sure I may have missed a few, but this post has gone on long enough. :)

[-] lambda@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

A bunch of people recommend dozzle in this thread.. I've been using Dockge. I wonder how they compare. I'll have to check that out later.

[-] node815@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Dozzle is just log viewing plain and simple. Dockge shows more that's all I know. I tested Dockge earlier on in development and haven't been back since, I know it's grown a lot more since.

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[-] Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

I want to self host more, but power draw is a concern.

So I have gone the route of running to Pi 4 8gb models as my hosts of choice.

So far I am hosting:

Non-Docker:

  • PiHole
  • Unbound
  • Wireguard (and Wireguard-UI)

Docker:

  • ForgeJo
  • Dozzle
  • Homarr
  • LinkWarden
  • Traefik
  • Watchtower

There are a few other services I want to get up, but I haven't gotten around to it:

  • Jellyfin
  • Immich
  • Nextcloud

As to why:

  • ForgeJo to host my own git repositories (Docker Compose files, Chezmoi dot files, Miscellaneous configs)
  • PiHole for ad blocking
  • Unbound, well, having my own DNS
  • Wireguard so I can connect to my home network
  • Dozzle for easy log checking for my docker containers
  • Linkwaren so I can backup bookmarks in a privacy friendly way
  • Homarr for easy access to other web services I host
  • Traefik so I can resolve IP:port to a hostname with SSL certificates even though everything I host is internal only
  • Watchtower to update my Docker containers
[-] AMillionMonkeys@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago
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[-] unrushed233@lemmings.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
  • Home Assistant
    There's no fucking way I'm using a cloud service to control parts of my home, that just feels so wrong to me on so many levels

  • Nextcloud
    There's no way I'm saving my files on someone else's computer (the Cloud). Even with encryption, it's expensive. Hard drives are cheap. Put them in a server, install Nextcloud and you have your private, cheap, independent cloud service.

  • Immich (currently migrating to Ente) for my photos

  • Jellyfin + arr Stack
    I'm not paying $100/month for 5 different streaming services to have access to all the content I like.

  • Navidrome for my (pirated) music

  • Audiobookshelf for audiobooks and podcasts

  • Pi-Hole with Unbound set up as a recursive resolver, cause why should I trust someone else with DNS?

I also self-host Matrix or Revolt servers as well as game servers for me and my friends, because it's much cheaper than getting VPS or a hosted option, and I already have this server that I use for a bunch of other stuff, so I can also just use it for that.

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[-] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

All of the services that I host are for private use:

  • Nextcloud
  • FreshRSS
  • Immich
  • Jellyfin
  • RSSBridge

And they are all behind Caddy, which reverse proxies and handles HTTPS. I'm not sure if it really counts as self-hosting, but I also use my server as a host for my backups with Borg. I also use it as a sort of central syncing point for Syncthing.

I did have a Pi-Hole at one point, but I kept running into issues with it — I may look into it again in the future.

At some point I'd like to try implementing some ideas that I've had for Homeassistant (a camera server with Frigate and some other automation things). Once federation has been implemented, I would like to host a Forgejo instance. I may also host a Simplex relay server, depending on how the app progresses. I've been considering hosting a Matrix instance, but I'm not sure yet.

[-] acceptable_pumpkin@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

PiHole, Plex and the related “*arr” apps. I also self-host my home automation platform (Home Assistant).

[-] Lifebandit666@feddit.uk 2 points 4 months ago

Me too, except it's Adguard for me.

Came in handy yesterday actually. I have a friend who works for a University which was recycling some Chromebooks.

He managed to grab 3 for me, one for myself and one for my kids.

Problem is that one of my kids is being supervised through Google Family Link which means for some reason the Play Store won't work.

So he is now unsupervised in Family Link just to get the Chromebook working.

So I've just given both my kids static IPs and pointed their Chromebooks at Adguard, then turned on Safe Search and adult content blocking.

Now I'm fairly confident they're protected from a lot of the bad shit on the internet.

[-] Swarfega@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

I've configured my kids devices to use NextDNS, that way they are getting filtering no matter what network they use.

AdGuard does what I need internally, it's just external is the issue. VPN's are not a solution, my kids are old enough to know they can just disable it to work around it. They don't know about the Private DNS option that I have configured on their devices... Yet

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

Nothing federated. I respect everyone who makes it possible, and there's an actual path to me being willing to participate, unlike corporate social media, but the level of exposure/overhead to prevent having genuinely bad shit touch my server is not something I'm comfortable with. I want stuff I can ignore for a week and not have the end of the world happen, which means at most user generated content from people I know personally.

In terms of what I'm currently hosting, just some mild personal content servers and a discord bot running a couple games on small servers with friends.

I'd like to get further into a personal site, to share my pictures/videos with friends, document/share my reading in ways goodreads and available alternatives don't do, and similar things like that that I genuinely am fine if no one looks at, but I can tell a friend "yeah, these are my favorite psychology books with a blurb on each", and "these are my favorite fiction series (actually organized by series as first class citizens, because no one really does that) with quick summaries of what I like about them", etc. I do a couple of the lists on goodreads, but you can't do blurbs on series, do lists by series, it won't even display your lists ordered or with your reviews properly included any more, and ultimately I'm going to track it all anyways so I want it structured and displayed in a way that actually makes sense to me.

I don't really want social media features and I definitely don't want to try to "grow it" or any of that nonsense, but ultimately I want to better track and organize all of that and don't really love the tools available, so rolling my own and "I might as well pretty up the presentation and make some of it public facing to discuss with friends" once I get the proper structuring handled.

[-] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago

I host way more than I probably should, but everyone should have some stuff like immich, vaultwarden, and nextcloud. I also like to host gitea and 30+ other things (check out netboot.xyz, it isn't something everyone needs but why wouldn't you want to be able to boot off the network), but that's just what some people do as a hobby I guess lol.

[-] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 3 points 4 months ago

I just setup netboot.xyz this evening as an experiment. Is pretty cool.

[-] 0x0@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago

The actual services I host? Mail

What do you use for that?

What types of things do you host and why?

Self-hosting as in at home, nothing to the outside world and i'm still sorting a local NAS; i have a VPS with a few websites but that's not self-hosting category i guess.

I'd locally-host media stuff but not even that is that important to me atm. Next on my list is 3-2-1 backups so i can reorganize my setup and eventually selfhost a wiregard VPN to access some data.

[-] erev@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I set up a mail stack on Rocky Linux with Postfix, Dovecot, and rspamd. I don't need a database because it's all LDAP on the backend, and I don't have webmail setup right now because I'm lazy. It's a bit of a hassle to get up and running well but it's pretty solid and I'm careful about managing my domain reputation so I don't have any issues with my mail being delivered.

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[-] Presi300@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

The main things for me are: Wireguard, NextCloud and an NFS/SMB share and a torrent client (Deluge)

[-] tburkhol@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

pihole, in front of my own DNS, because it's easier to have them to domain filtering.

mythtv/kodi, because I'd rather buy DVDs than stream; rather stream than pirate; but still like to watch the local news.

LAMP stack, because I like watching some local sensor data, including fitness equipment, and it's a convenient place to keep recipes and links to things I buy regularly but rarely (like furnace filters).

Homeassistant, because they already have interfaces to some sensors that I didn't want to sort out, and it's useful to have some lights on timers.

I also host, internally, a fake version of quicken.com, because it lets me update stock quotes in Quicken2012 and has saved me having to upgrade or learn a new platform.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago

Do you have any input on whether running your Pi-Hole as your DNS service versus how you have it, with pi-hole in front of a standalone DNS server, as to which is functionally "more better?"

I had been toying with making my pi-hole into a full DNS server using Unbound, but I had been debating if it would be better to have that service running seperately.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Unbound is incredibly lightweight. There’s no reason not to just have it running on the same box as your pihole.

[-] tburkhol@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I have isc-bind running behind pihole so network clients can register their own hostnames, and as near as I can tell, that's outside the scope of pihole's DHCP and dnsmasq. Pihole alone is probably fine if you only want to name static hosts, but (I understand) Unbound doesn't support ddns, either.

[-] solidgrue@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Unbound will take updates via API. You could either write exit hooks on your clients, or use the "on commit" event on isc-dhcp-server to construct parameters and execute a script when a new lease is handed out.

[-] lekor55@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 months ago

I've been considering the idea of self-hosting lately, especially for my online projects. The thought of having full control over my data and applications is appealing. It seems like a step towards independence and flexibility in managing my online presence. However, I'm still exploring the best way to go about it. I've heard about VPS hosting as a potential option, particularly in the USA where reliability and support are crucial. If anyone has experience with buy vps usa and can share insights or recommendations, I'd greatly appreciate it!

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[-] mike_wooskey@lemmy.thewooskeys.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm trying to deGoogle/deFAANG/deBigData so I try to host FOSS alternatives to every service I use on the internet, though some services won't be possible or practical (e.g., email).

I host:

  • audiobookshelf (to stream and sync podcasts between my devices)
  • baikal (to host contacts and calendars)
  • cryptpad (for collaborative spreadsheets and kanban, though it does more than this)
  • drawio (flowchart-like diagrams
  • forgejo (my git repos and oauth2)
  • homepage (personal dashboard of services and links)
  • invidious (youtube frontend)
  • lemmy (duh :) )
  • minio (S3 object storage)
  • mosquitto (mqtt server)
  • nextcloud (can do a lot, but I'm only using it to look at Memories for photo storage and management - I currently selfhost Photostructure, but it's not FOSS)
  • peertube (youtube alternative)
  • prometheus (metrics monitoring)
  • qbittorrent (torrents)
  • syncthing (currently only used to sync photos from my pixel to my server, but might be replaced if I switch to a photo management app that has an android app that can sync images)
  • tiddlywiki-nodejs (pretty powerful wiki, but I use it just to sync text-based info between devices)
  • traefik (reverse proxy in front of everything I host)
  • tt-rss (RSS feeds)
  • vaultwarden (password management - this is a fork of bitwarden)
  • wordpress (for my personal websites)
  • xbrowsersync (bookmark syncing between browsers/devices)

I use the d.rymcg.tech framework. It's a little over my head, but the framework makes it pretty easy to use all the apps. It's a bit tricky to add new apps to the framework, but it's fun and all the source is there to learn from and the developer is really nice and really helpful.

[-] erev@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I am also trying to degoogle/debigdata my life, but it seems we're taking radically different approaches to it. I wish you luck in your journey!

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[-] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 3 points 4 months ago

It started with Emby and pihole. I'm now up to about 30 different services from Vault, email, 3CX, home assistant, firefox, podgrab etc.

[-] Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
DHCP Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, automates assignment of IPs when connecting to a network
DNS Domain Name Service/System
Git Popular version control system, primarily for code
HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web
HTTPS HTTP over SSL
IMAP Internet Message Access Protocol for email
IP Internet Protocol
LAMP Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP stack for webhosting
NAS Network-Attached Storage
NFS Network File System, a Unix-based file-sharing protocol known for performance and efficiency
NVR Network Video Recorder (generally for CCTV)
PiHole Network-wide ad-blocker (DNS sinkhole)
Plex Brand of media server package
SMB Server Message Block protocol for file and printer sharing; Windows-native
SSD Solid State Drive mass storage
SSL Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption
SSO Single Sign-On
Unifi Ubiquiti WiFi hardware brand
VPN Virtual Private Network
VPS Virtual Private Server (opposed to shared hosting)
XMPP Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol ('Jabber') for open instant messaging
k8s Kubernetes container management package
nginx Popular HTTP server

23 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 8 acronyms.

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[-] solidgrue@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I used to selfhost more, but honestly it started to feel like a job, and it was getting exhausting (maybe also irritating) to keep up with patches & updates across all of my services. I made decisions about risks to compromise and data loss from breaches and system failures. In the end, In decided my time was more valuable so now I pay someone to incur those risks for me.

For my outward facing stuff, I used to selfhost my own DNS domains, email + IMAP, web services, and an XMPP service for friends and family. Most of that I've moved off to paid private hosting. Now I maintain my DNS through Porkbun, email through MXroute, and we use Signal instead of XMPP. I still host and manage my own websites but am considering moving to a ghost.org account, or perhaps just host my blogs on a droplet at DO. My needs are modest and it's all just personal stuff. I learned what I wanted, and I'm content to be someone else's customer now.

At home, I still maintain my custom router/firewall services, Unifi wireless controller, Pihole + unbound recursive resolver, Wireguard, Jellyfin, homeassistant, Frigate NVR, and a couple of ADS-B feeders. Since it's all on my home LAN and for my and my wife's personal use, I can afford to let things be down a day or two til I get around to fixing it.

Still need to do better on my backup strategies, but it's getting there.

[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago

For sure anything with private data involved, aside from my email.

So everything to do with images, videos, file/document storage, etc..

Also game servers because they're generally very easy to host at home, and due to generally high RAM and storage needs paying for hosting can be quite pricey.

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