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[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 97 points 5 months ago

Who the fuck cares if they're black white gay straight trans, just so the fucking job well. That's all anyone wants.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 159 points 5 months ago

Who the fuck cares

Aww, you’ve never met a republican, huh?

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 23 points 5 months ago

I have. And I'm telling them to get over it and not care. Even though I know they're too mentally unstable to accept the feedback.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

We should stop selecting our candidates based on what Republicans think.

[-] GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social 9 points 5 months ago

The unfortunate reality is that there's plenty of older democrats, "moderate democrats", and independents that also have a negative perception of the LGBT community.

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[-] finley@lemm.ee 21 points 5 months ago

Oooohhhh, a lot of people reeeaaaally care. They shouldn’t, but they really do.

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[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

So... No Republicans. Got it.

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[-] caboose2006@lemmy.ca 82 points 5 months ago

I actually really like buttigieg, but he's wrong. A woman of color AND a gay man? I wish we lived in that country but we don't live in that country.

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 77 points 5 months ago

Sure dude, but no offense, I'm hoping for the war veteran, swing state astronaut. Strategically he looks like the best choice IMO.

[-] Mad__vegan@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago

I liked him too until I found out it would prompt a special election that Democrats could likely lose

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago
[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago

He's a sitting senator of a red leaning state who won because of who he is. He has to vacate to run for VP, which is bad for keeping that seat. Losing the senate easily hamstrings any efforts a President Harris would bring, especially with GOP being the way they are.

Granted, that can be a problem for all swing state guys. Just isn't as terrible for governors (although that can screw with other things, like voting rights in a given state).

[-] spamfajitas@lemmy.world 54 points 5 months ago

Senator Kelly's replacement would be required by Arizona law to be a Democrat appointed by the Governor (also currently a Democrat). The special election to replace the replacement wouldn't be until 2026. If he's the right one for the job, it might be worth potentially taking a hit 2 years into a Harris administration.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

That's a good point. I didn't know it wasn't until 2026. The main point is to sure up Arizona, which is understandable. The guy from Pennsylvania might be good for that reason, too, but that's a little less iffy as it's a little more blue, especially since it sounds like Philly is loving the Harris hype.

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[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 61 points 5 months ago

Honestly, I’d settle for a good one. Gay or not. Because a person’s sexuality and preferences are entirely irrelevant to one’s ability to be a fair and hard working representative.

[-] lmaydev@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago

Let's not pretend that people would refuse to vote for a gay candidate.

Whether we personally consider it an issue it has likely massively hurt their prospects as a politician.

Also representation is really important. Especially for younger people.

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[-] foggy@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

...that's kinda what he's saying. He's saying there's enough people who agree with this now that the political backlash to it will be a drop of hate in a huge bucket of sensible sentiments.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Is america ready for a competent president? Will voters accept an adequate candidate? Its hard to say, without knowing first which divisive and inflammatory categories they can be sorted into.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 56 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I love Buttigieg, would definitely vote for him, but this would make me anxious. We already have black woman running and there are a lot of people in swing states that have a problem with just that.

I just want to be sure that the fascist criminal will lose.

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 18 points 5 months ago

But he's a veteran. Would they vote for the cop + veteran ticket or the felon + coach fucker one?

Time to show their true colors.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It didn't work for John Kerry when he ran against a draft dodger. I guess being a combat vet wasn't enough? Having been a cop would tip the balance?

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 8 points 5 months ago

Well, we all know that the salute-the-troops, thank-you-for-your-service crowd are just playing pretend.

We all saw what happened when their nominee insulted a purple heart recipient and past POW, and everyone just cheered.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 47 points 5 months ago

They really are not. A gay candidate will guarantee a loss through the midwest and south. Generally all the religious votes.

You think PizzaGate was bad? Wait until you have a gay candidate.

[-] bibliotectress@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Honestly, I thought the same thing about Obama. I didn't think there was any way a black guy who'd been living in Chicago would win. But he did! You never know!

Though I agree that the risk would be crazy high to run a black/Indian female president with a gay vice president. Maybe not this psycho election.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 22 points 5 months ago

Obama is literally the most professional and well spoken president since Clinton or JFK, possibly FDR. Like people he knew when he was younger were impressed with his ability.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago

As a Massachusan I applaud your description of JFK as being well spoken. Too often does our nonrhotic profanity laiden dialect end up being maligned. It's a wicked fucking tragedy.

[-] finley@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago

Never underestimate how much people really fucking hate Trump

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Never overestimate either.

People had a rare situation where they could compare trump and Biden presidency side by side and still were saying that they are not sure who they will vote for.

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[-] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago

I'm a member of the queer community and absolutely do not think this is a wise idea for this cycle. Maybe next time around Pete.

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[-] pastabatman@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I've read this article twice and nowhere does he say the words "America is ready for a gay vice president." He says being gay has not been the detriment to his political career people assumed it would be. He's not going around telling reporters he thinks he should be VP. In the one quote that he is asked directly whether he would do it, he dodged the question.

[-] pastabatman@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago
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[-] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago

I vote for policies not people. I don’t care if the candidate is a green-skinned genetically-enhanced three-year-old clone of a dead woman from Ohio, with a biotech computer in her brain. As long as she supports equal rights for all humans, I’m on board.

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[-] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 28 points 5 months ago

As someone who was unfortunate enough to have grown up in Indiana, I'd rather Buttigeg stay there and keep trying to drag that state into the 20th* century.

*Not a typo, that state is just that far behind.

[-] rigatti@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

He's not there though. He's in DC as Secretary of Transportation.

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[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 22 points 5 months ago

Yeah, we are... but it ain't you.

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

I'd caution against Pete specifically. Given the meme-state of modern politics and sheer stupidity of the average voter, it'd be a terrible idea to run a gay man whose name looks like 'buttplug'.

...and I'm not making a joke right now - collectively we're 100% dumb enough to throw an election over that.

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[-] Pixlbabble@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago
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[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

But, are they ready for a VP that has only been mayor of a small town and a cabinet member four years?

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[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Pete doesn't actually get things done, and he's a PMC McKinsey dud... Nothing wrong with who he loves, he's just a real bummer as a politician.

Also there's a reason the VP shortlist are milquetoast white males... Grandma in Ohio might be able to vote for a woman of color, but these frightened bigots need a "safe" feeling backup plan in VP. Win the battle, take the win if Kamala can break that barrier. She wouldn't be my first choice generally, but she has the momentum and now seems like the time. I'm supporting her full speed

[-] Tom_Hanx_Hail_Satan@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago

1000% agree. I'm not stoked about, most likely, not voting in a dem primary for 8 years. Harris wouldn't be my first choice but I don't wanna deflate the hype train at all. Hoping for a super majority in congress, that would be the big win. Really hope true progressives can accomplish as much as possible with that. Last time it happened for dems we got the ACA, that should be the minimum benchmark.

HARRIS/ANONYMOUS GENERIC WHITE GUY 2024!

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[-] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago

What I love about him though is how he talks to Republicans. He just has a way of making their hypocrisy obvious to them and you can literally see their brain short circuit and do a hard reboot before they respond. He's given some great interviews on fox news. But besides that I could take him or leave him.

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[-] Redfugee@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Such a disingenuous title. He never said voters were ready for a gay VP, his quotes were in response to a question if he thought voters were ready for a black woman. But I guess nobody reads the article and just throws in their 2 cents on what they think of Pete as a VP.

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[-] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago
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[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 14 points 5 months ago

Until ~##,### voters don't decide an entire presidential election, no. No, they aren't...

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 5 months ago

The question is how many of those voters would vote on a Democratic ticket led by a black woman in the first place. One of the most common errors in politics is trying to go after the core voters of the other side - usually framed as going after the moderates - instead of mobilising their own base. One of things that makes Trump dangerous is that he makes no such mistake.

[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 10 points 5 months ago

As long as he does not fuck couches.

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