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submitted 2 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Years before sheriff’s deputy Sean Grayson gunned down Sonya Massey in her own home, he had been discharged from the Army for serious misconduct and had a history of driving under the influence, records show.

He also failed to obey a command while working for another sheriff’s office in Illinois and was told he needed “high stress decision making classes,” the agency’s documents reveal.

Grayson, who was a Sangamon County sheriff’s deputy before he was fired and charged with murder, responded to a report of a prowler at Massey’s home July 6. Bodycam footage from another deputy showed Massey saying she rebuked Grayson, and Grayson responded by threatening the 36-year-old. The exchange ended with Grayson shooting Massey and failing to render aid.

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[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 217 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So in other words, there was every reason to realize that this guy shouldn't have access to a gun and a badge, but neither his coworkers nor his supervisors did anything about it.

AND THAT is why people say ACAB, because the other police who allowed this man to remain an officer are 100% complicit in this outcome.

Why do we have to wait until they fucking execute someone to do something about it?

Edit: And the bootlicker who downvoted without even the courage to disagree openly can go eat a bag of dicks.

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

What’s worse is they hired him in the first place.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

If we ever get a progressive president maybe we'll actually fix it.

Until "bad apples" fuck up the rest of the cops money, they won't care.

Start taking the settlements out of their union/pension accounts. And all of a sudden I think cops will start electing different kinds of unions reps, ones that won't fight hardest to keep the worst cops on duty

[-] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

Not really under the purview of a president though (nor are they really a king, even with the insane Scotus decision.)

People need to vote in local elections for people to fix this as most departments are locally run and overseen. At most you might get your state to pass something but even then that would be only blue states.

It would be nice to have Congress do something but i don't ever see that happening as Republicans wouldn't go near it and even some Democrats wouldn't.

Problem is a lot of people don't really care as much about this as other things.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

Until “bad apples” fuck up the rest of the cops money, they won’t care.

I've come to realize this is the only answer. Settlements have to get big enough that taxes get high enough that localities are motivated to put actual pressure on their police. Having said that, apparently the number has to get pretty big before folks start to care.

[-] kungen@feddit.nu 5 points 2 months ago

taxes get high enough that localities are motivated to put actual pressure on their police

Yes, but then you see politicians cutting funding to schools and such first, no? Taking settlements from "their own" money (such as pensions) is one of the better solutions I've heard.

[-] n2burns@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

If we ever get a progressive president maybe we'll actually fix it.

I'm not sure a president could make the necessary changes on their own. I think you'd also need a progressive congress.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

FDR got a lot of shit done.

Even tho he wanted more and the two parties unified against him.

An actually progressive president can guilt their party into progress, because he'll go to their voters and flat out say the Dems they voted for is holding the whole country back, so next primary he's supporting a challenger.

Strangely enough, just the threat of that is often enough.

Hell, Bernie is just a senator but that didn't stop him from going to WV and telling voters that about Manchin.

And Manchin started supporting the party more.

Worked a hell of a lot better than Bidens strategy of publicly admitting he would even try to change someone's mind.

[-] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

If we ever get a progressive president maybe we’ll actually fix it.

What do you think a progressive president can/will do to fix this? Biden used every available power of the office to try to push for police reform: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/02/07/fact-sheet-the-biden-harris-administrations-work-to-make-our-communities-safer-and-advance-effective-accountable-policing/

Real change has to come from congress or state governments. The president has very limited powers here. Mostly they can only impose rules on federal officers, not local police.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Maybe you blocked the other person that asked me, but here's what I told them:

FDR got a lot of shit done.

Even tho he wanted more and the two parties unified against him.

An actually progressive president can guilt their party into progress, because he’ll go to their voters and flat out say the Dems they voted for is holding the whole country back, so next primary he’s supporting a challenger.

Strangely enough, just the threat of that is often enough.

Hell, Bernie is just a senator but that didn’t stop him from going to WV and telling voters that about Manchin.

And Manchin started supporting the party more.

Worked a hell of a lot better than Bidens strategy of publicly admitting he would even try to change someone’s mind.

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If they didn't let just any idiot become a cop Sonya would be alive right now but instead we have iq limits on cops because uncle sam needs his cops nice a dumb.

[-] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

The video is awful... 1000 other outcomes could have existed here that didn't involve killing her for no reason. One of the articles attached to the link explains each bad decision made and even how he showed zero lack of remorse. It's insane that they would tell her to take care of the pot of boiling water only to then use that as the excuse to consider her a threat when they could have easily done this themselves if they were so worried. They also could have just backed away if it was really so concerning to them as well. They also shot her in the head? If you have to shoot someone, is there even an attempt at all anymore to just shoot them in non vital areas so they can be apprehended, or is the outcome supposed to be shoot to kill? Aiming for the head doesn't sound right for almost all situations.

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago

He had to approach her to shoot her. Sonya ducked behind a counter when the officer pulled his gun on her and said "I will fucking shoot you in your fucking face". Why would someone approach a threat? He didn't see her as a threat, he saw an excuse to kill her.

is there even an attempt at all anymore to just shoot them in non vital areas so they can be apprehended, or is the outcome supposed to be shoot to kill?

It's always shoot to kill, as it should be. A gun is a lethal weapon. It's only use is to kill. Police have less-than-lethal tools if their intent isn't to kill.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

He didn’t see her as a threat, he saw an excuse to kill her.

I come away with this thought often in situations like this.

Too many cops seem to look for how much force they get to use instead of how much they need to use.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 13 points 2 months ago

Sounds like a candidate for life in prison.

[-] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago

He’ll get a promotion by the time his police frat bros are done fucking the system.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

In the same sense that Dennis Kucinich was a candidate for president, yes.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 8 points 2 months ago

Maybe such classes can be added to the prison curriculum?

[-] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So, not quite human…

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