checks if 2002 was when morrowind was released Christ morrowind fanboys on this site are insufferable (why are there so many?)
I loved oblivion, I loved Skyrim and I loved fallout 3 Fallout 4 and 76 weren’t that great, and starfield was better than those two but still not up to snuff.
A few video essays on YouTube do not the consensus make. You can crap your pants in nostalgia all you want boomers, most people preferred oblivion and Skyrim to morrowind.
i can somewhat agree. skyrim wasn’t a great game, but i had a lot of fun playing it. that being said, 95% of the time i spent playing it was with intense modding. without mods i dont think it has much replay value, or even play value. but mods can make the magic system better, make combat more challenging, make skill trees more complex, etc.
but the plot sucks, the lore is lackluster compared to every other TES game, they took out p much all RPG mechanics, combat is mind-numbing, characters are flat (i want a mage with dementia to tell me she wants a bow that smells like yams only to say never mind when i bring it to her). it is objectively a worse game compared to morrowind by a long shot, but morrowind was a masterpiece. skyrim is fun and if you have 100 mods can even be a good game
mods can make the magic system better, make combat more challenging, make skill trees more complex, etc.
And then you play like, some content mod right? The world and questline and all the sidequests suck so badly.
Time is usually a clarifying lens. Skyrim has always been hard-carried by mods, to the point that my prediction has been that Starfield will be entirely saved by mods due to having a better platform for modding than even Skyrim, assuming people don't give up on it entirely.
Seeing such a tame take become this hot though is unfortunate, I thought we had advanced beyond Skyrim.
Whoever linked this to reddit, show yourself!
https://www.reddit.com/r/SocialistGaming/comments/1el473v/better_late_than_never/
sweeping statements
I knew there would be one
Sweeping the game into the dustbin of history.
Where it belongs 
It's not great but walking around a town at night while Streets of Whiterun plays is comfy
I started with Skyrim modded it to hell, had a lot of fun and then I played Daggerfall Unity and realised what they had take from us.
It's not great, but mods fix it into something worth playing. Recently, in Beyond Reach, I had Karl Marx pay me 15 gold for busking for him and three sex workers
Some of you all really need to worry less about what other people enjoy. Yeah I see the usual comments line why bother trying to convince others. Why is there ant need to convince others? Why do some gamers treat this crap like proselytizing some religion?
I also think some people have an inability to just shut off their criticism and have some damn fun.
I agree Skyrim had issues and flaws. Most games do. I was pissed at how flawed it was on PS3 origonally and how long I had to wait for patches just to ginish my game. But it'salso still got tons of great varying gameplay. It's a great sandbox. There's lots of good dungeons and quests.
People also love Witcher and that game is garbage to me. Slow, boring gameplay. I don't get the appeal, but you do you. Some people now think Cyberpunk is the greatest RPG ever, yet it was pure garbage at release.
This thread is weird. So much weird hate for something specific.
As a big fan of the first two Fallouts and Daggerfall/Morrowind growing up, I do still like Oblivion. It's the right amount of jank and entertaining, with the bizarre voice action, the Dark Brotherhood quest line. Never played the main quest. Fallout 3 less so but still passable.
Skyrim was trash though, I did play the day 0 build and early patches only but I found a game-breaking combo of some sort early on and just ran thru the main quest to see what it was about since I never bothered with oblivion. I was pretty close to finished, but one of the last quests having a totally deflated final showdown between two factions where a dozen guys showed up and hit each other with poles in a courtyard just made me do the other stuff but none of it really landed for me. SO MANY RUINS.
The best description of Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim I've heard is:
Morrowind is a book (with fantastic illustrations). There's a lot of reading. There's a lot of filling in the gaps with your imagination (combat). This can make it harder to get into, but when you do it's a deeper experience and timeless.
Oblivion is a community theatre production. It's kind of a hot mess and the acting is terrible. But you can still feel the love it's creators put into it, and it's charming in weird ways you'll remember forever. But you don't want every experience to be like this.
Skyrim is a blockbuster movie. It's initially really fun and climatic, but the more you revisit you see the plot holes, the limitations of production, the recycled tropes etc.
it has a place in my heart like the star wars prequels where I know it's really bad but kinda love it anyway and revisit from time to time for kicks and to explore what makes it interesting
400 comments for a goofyass observation about gamer video slop. We did it, reddit.
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