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Schrodinger's Privacy: Best Buy Needs Your Data to Stop Selling Your Data (odysee.com)
submitted 3 months ago by QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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[-] scytale@lemm.ee 42 points 3 months ago

This is the same for most businesses that offer customers to delete (or stop selling) your data. You have to fill out forms with a bunch of very personal information for them to delete your data, which is a hassle. You don't even know what data they have on you and may very well be providing even more info than what they have just by requesting to delete it. IMO they should just ask for a name. Hell, if you have an account with them, then it should be straightforward to proceed if it's requested by a user who is logged into their account. They can even send a confirmation email or something to ensure the account wasn't compromised.

[-] ThePancakeExperiment@feddit.org 8 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I once wanted to delete my Blizzard/battle.net account, just made with an old mail address, no personal data attached (at least from my side) and they wanted to see scans of my id. After some back and forth I threatened them with a gdpr complaint and one day later they deleted the account, at least they said so.

[-] sunzu@kbin.run 25 points 3 months ago

The government ain't gonna do shit for the peasants... We know this. Start acting like it.

Deny them profit and deny them data as much as possible.

These parasites only speak one language, act like it.

[-] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Would that work for literally anything we/nations use government for though?

"The government won't prevent companies polluting the environment, so just assume it's every individual citizen's responsibility" "the gov won't ensure food is safe to eat, so just follow these tiktok channels because it's ultimately your responsibility to know what companies are putting in the food you eat" or "the gov won't protect consumers from unfair business practices so just don't support companies that are have a monopoly in your area" (this last one clearly ain't working and consumers clearly can't do anything; thinking of Comcast or Ticketmaster here). Personally, I think the EPA, FDA and antitrust laws are as necessary as any other basic laws (along with people to enforce those laws).

People making the claim that we don't need government intervention, or saying private citizens should be held responsible, for government-sanctioned practices are either delusional/willfully ignorant or fake actors trying to shift responsibility from the government which literally has the power to enact legislation.

Imo, the biggest responsibility citizens have is to hold their government accountable. Most Americans legit think all politicians are evil and stupid which really just goes to show that they can't tell the difference between someone trying to fight for companies to pay fair overtime/holiday pay and someone fighting for us to invest in ~~another war~~ err I mean defense

[-] sunzu@kbin.run 4 points 3 months ago

We pay them taxes but we can't hold them accountable... Even when we get a "W" like obamacare, it was really an L for vast majority of workers.

People should lobby and tell their parasite how they feel but in reality hurting profits is way more effective

[-] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You're definitely not wrong that hurting profits is good leverage. It might actually be the best tool we have

I don't remember where I heard it recently, but we really need to bring back the slogan "no taxation without representation"

Millennials barely have representation and gen z has maybe one representative. The US was legit founded by mostly young people. It's nuts to see the contrast to today. It's not even exaggerating to say this nation hates it's younger citizens

Edit: grammars

[-] sunzu@kbin.run 2 points 3 months ago

Until younger people start rattling boomers and their owners cages, nothing will change.

Protests don't work, we already saw what happened with covid and ocupy. Anything centralized gets taken over by feds and gutted.

Only practical solution see now is to decentralize, deny profits to corpos, deny legitimacy to two party regime, ask for raises and switch jobs for raises.

Them shit post about it until enough of us wake and start fighting back.

If people got other ideas, I am all ears BTW.

Just spit balling tactics that I use

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

A good first step would be to require all companies to make their mobile websites mirror the functionality of their app so we didn't have to install so many fucking data vacuums on our phones

[-] sunzu@kbin.run 4 points 3 months ago

Which government is gonna require something like this.

Which government has "political" will for this?

We are enslaved by the corpos who are allied with government to do this. I am down to lobby but my point above was more about what people should be doing themselves since the state won't do shit for us.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah that's fair, I was of the mind of the hope that we the people could possibly shift things in our direction.

The biggest hurdle in all of this is that everything is set up in a way that the most affordable and convenient options are often the worst as far as privacy, Amazon being the biggest example, groceries being another. It takes an extraordinary amount of diligence (and let's be real, income) to be able to side skirt corporate dominance in the goods market. Services like utilities and often house are pretty much fucked unless you can manage to move somewhere more off the grid.

[-] sunzu@kbin.run 2 points 3 months ago

I agree, 60-80% of our spending is locked in. Hence my sentiment above.

However, markets where there is choice, people need to be aggressive to deny rent seekers profits.

Example, streaming! Piracy is a good one!

Going out for food out, luxury.

If you got means, pay for privacy.

If price for item goes up, look for substitute.

So you really need all these clothes.

Etc

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 months ago

When the imposters are sus lol

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 3 months ago

"We and our 6472 vendors value your privacy."

Why am I hesitant to believe they do?

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