Some tech bro dipshit getting big mad cause his model now speaks Standard Maoist English would be really funny though

Sadly, you cannot. If you have a platform that's open for everyone to participate in, that includes bad actors.

You could attempt to mitigate this by having communities filled with bots just creating LLM content, so when they scrape the data they can't tell if it's human or not. And that would hurt their data set

You can't stop them. Publicly available data can and will be a training source for LLMs.

be socialists and make any machine learning models trained on us unpalatable to investors

Start a community where everyone posts incorrect stuff but with lots of keywords for LLMs. Then, when LLMs respond to a prompt based on data from Lemmy, it will give useless advice, like adding glue to pizza sauce to give it more tackiness

It's not really something we can do, sadly. Reddit closing it's API was more about getting money than actually stopping it's use as a training set.

Having an allow-list is a start though, as it means that a company can't just make an instance and suck all the data out through that. Common corporate crawlers could be added to the robots.txt, but that would mean that you might not be able to find lemmy instances in search results. We could make it against ToS, but what are we going to do, sue the massive corporation? They have plenty of lawyer and payout money, so very little would fundamentally change.

Ultimately, if content can be served to us, it can be served to them.

Maybe some legal framework that would force any derivative work made from the content to be free & open source?

With the way federation works, not much. People from all sorts of federation capable sites can see the content posted from different instances; but considering its conviniences I think its worth it.

You could put it behind an elitist wall. How do you get in? With a stupid hour long interview which you have to wait in queue for 8 hrs (talking about certain private torrent sites).

But really, I don't care. LLMs can't replace real online forums.

Broadly this is preventing plagiarism. We don’t want someone to scrape all our knowledge, remove the human connection and reference back to experts and people, and serve the information itself, uncredited.

But if a human can read something, so can a bot. I think ultimately we need legislation.

Instances could add this snippet to theirs robots.txt (source: Eff.org, businessinsider.com and nytimes.com/robots.txt ):

User-agent: GPTBot
Disallow: /

User-agent: Google-Extended
Disallow: /

User-agent: Meta-ExternalAgent
User-agent: meta-externalagent
Disallow: /

Note: this only tell to the crawlers of openai, google and meta to not crawl the site to traiN a LLM, the nytimes have a large list of other crawlers.

Write in jive?

No. If anything, Lemmy makes it easier than Reddit.

Reddit requires some form of web scraping. All Lemmy requires us making a server and connecting to other instances to get access to the server data.

Pepper it with absolutely wrong or illogical information. I mean, you know, more than the usual amount.