294

China's EVs are fueling a big oil demand slowdown (africa.businessinsider.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by DMBFFF@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

67 comments fedilink hide all child comments

top 50 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[-] dugmeup@lemmy.world 62 points 2 weeks ago

Good.

[-] Chessmasterrex@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago

I'm all for giving credit where credit is due.

load more comments (10 replies)

[-] Dark_Dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 2 weeks ago

Better headline

" China's EV Revolution Slows Oil Demand "

[-] doodledup@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

What is with these headlines these days.... "Fueling a slowdown".

[-] Akasazh@feddit.nl 5 points 2 weeks ago

Editors love puns

[-] Soleos@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

China's EV's putting brakes on oil demand

[-] anakin78z@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Oil demand deceleration is up in country where demand for non battery vehicles is down. China.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They sort of bury the lede by only mentioning it once in the tagline. Their consumption is also down because there is a massive widespread shift to using CNG/LNG in industrial vehicles/transport trucks instead of diesel, which is a majority driver of oil consumption in China's production-based economy.

[-] DMBFFF@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

True, but IIUC, the energy/mass of carbon might be better than diesel.

[-] lnxtx@feddit.nl 7 points 2 weeks ago

You are right, according to the Wikipedia:
CNG/LNG:

CNG's energy density is the same as liquefied natural gas at 53.6 MJ/kg.

Diesel fuel:

About 86.1% of diesel fuel mass is carbon, and when burned, it offers a net heating value of 43.1 MJ/kg as opposed to 43.2 MJ/kg for gasoline.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

It also burns ridiculously cleaner as it does not have the typical long hydrocarbons and sulfur/metal contaminants that otherwise turn into air pollution. It's a smart choice in the short term.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

Fueling a slowdown? Doesn't sound right.

[-] mmcintyre@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

That headline is a race track that leads to a brick wall.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

I need a car because I live in a semi-rural area outside city limits the nearest public transportation would be a 2-mile walk including crossing a four-lane highway. I'm under no illusions that driving an EV will solve climate change, but boy would I like to never have to fill my car up in the middle of an Indiana February again.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I had coworkers that had all electric EVs (both had nissan leafs) 5 years ago and they both said it was like 7 dollars a month as a daily 60 mile per day commuter.

Aside from Teslas (which are afaik impossible to repair) the estimate is that due to fewer moving parts the lifetime maintenance costs are 2/3 the cost of gas vehicles AND the vehicles are expected to last longer in general (no giant gas engine that needs to be rebuilt every 200,000 miles)

This is one place where like gas car companies see this and keep trying to kick the can down the road

[-] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 weeks ago

Today I sold my beloved 2008 Mini, partly because, while the engine was still completely sound at 130k miles (barring the turbo that blew up three years ago), the rest of the car was beginning to fall apart. One of the rear light clusters kept shorting, interior panels worked themselves loose, the AC stopped working, the self leveling mechanism in one of the headlights broke. And so on, and so on.

I’m genuinely sad that I had to let it go, but it was on the cusp of being a massive pain in the ass to sort out.

But that engine was still solid.

[-] Juvyn00b@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I had a Lexus ES350 that had a melting dash, and the recall for it has ended a year prior to me having the issue. Essentially the dash was engineered to be easier to recycle/break down - but inadvertently had a lifetime limitation to it. The rest of the car was in decent enough shape and didn't give me any real problems. There were alternate solutions to fixing the dash, but once you start talking 200000 miles on a chassis - you're gonna start replacing things. Touched surfaces start breaking down; things with less robust parts (cd player) start having issues etc. Overall the entire package just starts looking tired, and replacing the whole thing looks more attractive than trying to find parts for a fifteen year old car. Perhaps modularization in the future can help. For instance I wouldn't have minded replacing the audio system in the car - but it was very much a specialized installation that wasn't a standardized "double din" setup. Also trying to find basic comforts like replacement seat cushions or leather to match gets tricky after the manufacturer stops keeping stock.

[-] CondensedPossum@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Why is Biz Insider so insistent on being cringe on top of being a worthless capitalist propaganda rag

[-] badbytes@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Why is the title written so badly. Can't journalists write a normal descriptive headline.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Another benefit to the sanctions against Chinese EVs - gotta protect those oil profits!

load more comments

this post was submitted on 01 Sep 2024

294 points (94.5% liked)

World News

38529 readers

2038 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.