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[-] DdCno1@beehaw.org 42 points 1 year ago

Voting for a third party candidate only helps Trump. They might as well just vote for him directly. The outcome is the same and if America and the world are unlucky enough to experience a second Trump term, then these idiots would strongly regret their decision. Palestinians wouldn't be the only ones to suffer from this.

[-] LukeZaz@beehaw.org 30 points 1 year ago

If you're so worried about Trump being elected, maybe you should push for Harris to adopt better policy so people are more comfortable voting for her, rather than shaming people for not wanting to vote for the lesser of two genocides.

[-] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

A lot of people are both pushing Harris on this issue, and warning that Trump would be far worse.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

A lot of people are both pushing Harris on this issue

No, you're not, unless you're a billionaire. Kamala doesn't even have policy positions on her website. It's just a short bio and a donation portal.

[-] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Republicans however have made their plans clear. They plan to cut medicare, ACA, planned parenthood funding and lots of other affordable health care (in addition to all the other heinous Heritage Foundation shit)

[-] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Isn't that wild?

That we have a legit fascist candidate, and the fascist is the only one willing to say publicly what they actually support? All Democrats have offered voters so far are variations on two memes: Joy and weirdness.

Kamala doesn't even have policy positions on her website, which if you ask me, is basic functionality for any politician.

By pushing Harris I mean going out and protesting etc.

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[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago

I can't control Harris's policy choices. I can only control my vote, and I will crawl over broken glass to vote for Harris because Trump is a monster.

[-] LukeZaz@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

You can absolutely pressure Harris, though. Join a protest.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

People said the same thing four years ago: Vote Biden and then push him to the left.

What we got was another right-wing Democrat who, once they seized power, didn't care to listen to anyone.

I'm going to vote Green. I already know my vote is worthless, so I might as well vote for a party I actually support.

[-] DdCno1@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

Now I definitely know you're a Russian troll. This is exactly the kind of political apathy the Russian regime wants to establish in America after having done so at home years ago.

[-] kittenroar@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, anyone who disagrees with you politically must be a Russian troll. I can't imagine why genocide would push someone do do something as extreme as vote green.

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[-] Cuttlersan@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

One hundred percent this! While what’s happening in Gaza is beyond deplorable, voting third party only serves to shoot these folks in the foot. Not only would Trump promote actual pogroms to kill off the Gazan population en masse (even worse than the current level of violence), but they’ll find themselves the first up against the wall along with LGBTQ+ folks at home if Project 2025 is allowed to proceed.

You could call it shooting oneself in the foot or cutting off their nose to spite their face, but it’s more like voluntarily slitting their own throat and smiling about it because at least they made the floor messy for everyone in the process.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

Trump isn't the one being two-faced and funding genocide right now. Biden is. (Or his handlers at least.)

You're right in that the position of both major parties is exactly the same on Israel, but you have to see how Biden's a hard sell at this point objectively.

[-] DdCno1@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago

The two parties are nowhere near the same on this topic, there is no genocide being funded and the whole handler nonsense makes you sound like a Russian troll.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You are wrong in every aspect here.

Both parties support and send military welfare to Israel annually, Dems have boosted it this year and last, in a time when Israel is committing genocide.

You literally watched Biden's brain melt on national TV in June, on top of dozens (and I'm being charitable there) of public incidents where his cognitive decline was undeniable and he appeared to have handlers keeping him form wandering off. The Daily Show made fun of them repeatedly.

Remember: "WE BEAT MEDICARE!"?

You're the friggin' troll here, trying to gaslight people.

[-] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Genocide is definitely being funded by the US. We gives billions in aid to Israel every yeah, no strings attached

[-] along_the_road@beehaw.org 32 points 1 year ago

Voting for a 3rd party especially in swing states to guarantee a trump victory? Is that the goal here? Do they want more aid to Israel and get deported?

[-] sanzky@beehaw.org 18 points 1 year ago

pretty sure they want democrats to wake up and change their policies and the only leverage they have is their vote.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

The DNC still has time to win over these voters. Does the DNC want to win the election badly enough to stop a genocide?

[-] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

They're citizens. They can't be deported

[-] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 year ago

Oh you sweet summer child

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