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[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 63 points 2 months ago

Jack Dorsey sure kept a lot of stake in his company after handing the reigns over to people who would never understand how to run it

[-] ElCanut@jlai.lu 8 points 2 months ago

TBH he even started a concurrent of it, so he probably expected Twitter to lose value

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

He created BlueSky as a side project because he knew he could off-load it at an obscene markup onto another group of sucker investors, kind of like how he did with Twitter. But Twitter was the system with all the end-users. That system should have been free to just print money indefinitely without any effort by the buyer.

Oops.

[-] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 2 months ago

Oracle:

One

Rich

Asshole

Called

Larry

Ellison

Fucker sent out an email to literally every employee bragging about buying his Hawaiian island when he did it.

[-] criss_cross@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

You're getting pretty close to anthropomorphising Larry Ellison there.

[-] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago
[-] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 48 points 2 months ago

That was just the cost to buy a propaganda machine with over half a billions users.

[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

And destroy its influence for the left

[-] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Prevent any more of those pesky arab springs or occupy movements.

[-] el_abuelo@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago

Legit didn't think of it like that and I like to think of myself as an above-average-intellectual-left-wing-european.

Thank you for the spark.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 2 months ago

Everyone has blind spots, intelligence has nothing to do with it.

[-] el_abuelo@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

Fair. I just didn't realise mine was so big. Time to have an existential crisis about how big my other blind spots are!

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

And the people still allow it because double posting to mastodon is just too hard. Maybe Facebook will save them.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago

The people in question will hardly even notice. But turning one of the most prominent social media sites in the world into a far right propaganda spout will make it well worth to them.

[-] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

Is this real money or just "valuation" money?

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 54 points 2 months ago

As r/wallstreetbets will tell you, it's only a loss once you sell, so just hold onto the stock forever and it doesn't count.

All jokes aside, the platform formerly known as Twitter's revenue has collapsed recently, so these investors won't be seeing anywhere near the return on their investment that they should be seeing. This will sting.

[-] theoretiker@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 2 months ago

Where did that money go? Now it's just in the hands of some other rich dickheads.

[-] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 months ago

To the people owning Twitter stocks. So a lot of rich dickheads but also to some non rich dickheads and actually good people.

[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Twitter stocks are no longer traded and all the past investors have been paid the meme price or $54.69 or something like that. They all won the lottery as that was an extremely overvalued price

Unfortunately, the "lost" money is an hypothetical calculation using the current Xitter value and the massive debt that the rat did to purchase Twitter. It's something like wondering "how much money would Larry Ellison get if he found another sucker willing to buy his Xitter shares?"

[-] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago

I am aware. That is how stocks work. The billions "lost" got paid to previous owners of the stock.

I used "owning" instead of "owned", sorry, I guess.

[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

On the upside, if we think better, the answer to the question "how much money would Larry Ellison get if he found another sucker willing to buy his Xitter shares?" is $0 as there would be nobody so insane to buy them.

So that number is the money that he lost for now, if he would be able to sell

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

people owning Twitter stocks

some non rich dickheads and actually good people

I don't believe you.

[-] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago

A Twitter stock was $34 in early 2022 and got bought by musk for $53.70 in late 2022.

You could have made $20 with a $34 investment. There were certainly some good people who invested maybe $340 and made $200.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

There were certainly some good people who invested maybe $340

Ah, you're talking about gamblers who threw a few bucks on the ponies. Sure. Plenty of them were probably fine.

But talk to me about someone who made more than six figures off Twitter stock price arbitrage.

[-] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago

When did I or anyone talked about more than 6 figures? We talked about who got the money and in my comment, I made clear that "a lot of it" went to dickheads. so I thought it was obvious that i wasn't talking about "6 figures".

And also musk was legally required to buy the stocks... It was hardly a gamble. At least not a pony. It would have been a reasonable expectation that people will drive up the price because Elon (that genius) talked himself in a prison sentence if he didn't buy it for that price, like a genius would do.

[-] el_abuelo@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

What on earth makes you think anyone here has any details on people making "six figures"?

That is a paltry sum that the mob give zero shits about.

To some, it seems like an incredible amount of money. To others it is several orders of magnitude too low to even consider.

Don't worry about the people making 6 figures. Worry about the people making 9.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago

Saudi wasn't investing billions in a social media platform.

Saudi was spending billions to have a social media platform killed.

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Meh, those people will write it down and use it to offset any other taxes they need to pay.

[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Not sure if Saudi princes pay taxes

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I would be shocked if any of them did

[-] el_abuelo@programming.dev 8 points 2 months ago

Saudi nationals don't pay tax. The oil sustains their economy.

Think about that for a second. Your entire population doesn't need to pay tax because you make so much money from oil. Imagine the lengths they would go to in order to protect that. And the atrocities their people would overlook.

[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

They don't pay taxes? Wow they must be so socially advanced

[-] gencha@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago

You can say a lot of bad things about Mush, but he's not a cheap whore

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I mean he is.

No matter how you cut it he lost money and it's still losing money as market share reduces and so does ad revenue.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Sometimes you get what comes around and sometimes you are what comes around.

[-] cheddar@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago

Well it depends on what they were actually buying. Probably not Twitter.

[-] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 months ago

Hmm I wonder if he bought his crypto via binance

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

I hope so, they're super crooked even for a crypto company.

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