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Peter Cushing’s resurrection 22 years after his death for the spin-off film Rogue One: A Star Wars Story is at the centre of a legal battle over control of his image.

Special effects were used to digitally recreate Cushing’s character, Grand Moff Tarkin, from the original Star Wars film.

The makers of Rogue One are being sued by a film producer who was one of Cushing’s oldest friends. Kevin Francis claims the actor agreed not to grant permission for anyone to reproduce his appearance through special effects without his authorisation.

The Disney group, which made Rogue One, failed on Monday to have Francis’s claim for “unjust enrichment” dismissed at the High Court in London. Cushing died of cancer in 1994 at the age of 81. Special effects were used to recreate his appearance with the British actor, Guy Henry, 63, performing as his body double.

Francis’ company, Tyburn Film Productions, is suing the Disney subsidiary Lucasfilm, which owns the rights to Star Wars, and Lunak Heavy Industries (UK), the producer of Rogue One. He also brought claims against the executors of Cushing’s estate, who have both died, and Associated International Management, the agency that represented Cushing until his death.

Cant to see the future corporate wars over who owns the rights to Keanu Reeves likeness

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[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 47 points 1 week ago

I HATE how this is not "hey this person did not and could not have consented to this" and is instead "nuh uh I own him not you"

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago

Eventually Futurama will be correct and these companies will be licensing out the image of dead people for sex bots.

[-] gueybana@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

Yeah, seriously. His friend is suing Disney and the executors of Cushing’s estate? On behalf of whom, himself?

Tf is going on, who tf is this guy?

[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 6 days ago

Considering the executors of the estate were not doing it, I'd say someone has to do it.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

I HATE how this is not "hey this person did not and could not have consented to this" and is instead "nuh uh I own him not you"

"The estate of the dead person was economically coerced into receiving pennies so rich people can animate this dead person and collect royalty-free revenue from their likeness for all eternity. Why are you such a Luddite?" smuglord

[-] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

Literally the "Own John Candy's Soul in the Metaverse" bit from Chapo

[-] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

Please beat the corporate ghouls just this once timmy-pray

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"In a 6-3 ruling the Supreme Court has determined that all mortals are subject to eternal defamation and exploitation after death if it might feed a hog or make money." this-is-fine

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

Guy gets a call from his agent. "How would you like to be in the Star Wars franchise?" Guy is excited but then he soon learns it won't get him the exposure he'd hoped for in any way, shape, or form.

Special effects were used to recreate his appearance with the British actor, Guy Henry, 63, performing as his body double.

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

Its like actor they used for the mando shows, he looks exactly like a young mark hamill, but noo we have to use weird looking cgi to stick Hamill's face on him

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

i wish them all success in the world

[-] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm no legal scholar but all of human history has been anti-necromancy. I would assume this one of the few truly "human nature" traits. I would argue that digital necromancy is bad.

Cant to see the future corporate wars over who owns the rights to Keanu Reeves likeness

August 20, 2023.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

At least in the past necromancers didn't have easy rhetorical bludgeons like "you're afraid of necromancy" to lean on, unlike "Luddite" thrown around by bazingas today.

[-] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"You're afraid of necromancy? Don't you know that Necromancy creates jobs?" - Byron BuyYourBones, CEO of ARISEN a silicon valley start up that uses AI and Machine Learning to create digital avatars of your loved ones and then forces them to work as jobs as on-demand Chatbots for MEGACORP customer services

EDIT: I should have called it AI-RISEN, the marketing suits would never have the courage to call it something that doesn't overtly name check whatever trendy tech is poppin'.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

CEO of ARISEN a silicon valley start up that uses AI and Machine Learning to create digital avatars of your loved ones and then forces them to work as jobs as on-demand Chatbots for MEGACORP customer services

"You should be glad that simulations of your dearly departed are hustlegrinding

spoiler(CW: SV) and/or being pimped out
to continue being productive for the ARISEN corporate family. Why are you so stuck in the past?" smuglord

[-] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

The most bazinga brained person I know was mad about people discussing the ethics of cgi necromancy not because of a principled stance but that it ruined the movie by giving away the big reveal of Peter Cushing being in it.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

but that it ruined the movie by giving away the big reveal of Peter Cushing being in it.

Nothing matters to the treat hogs but a proper treat flow.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

Is it still treat-brained if someone wants to be a necromancer so they can resurrect Thatcher, Reagan, and Gorby to make their skeletons fight in a protracted zombie war against the state? Asking for a friend....

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

I have always said that treats are okay in moderation, and I'm more than willing to extend that moderation when it comes to Thatcher, Reagan, and Gorby postmortem reeducation.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

The Law Comes to Tarkintown

[-] miz@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

Michael Eisner isn't dead but he sure looks like it

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Can't wait until the AI data scrapers find and use old social media pictures of me to generate my likeness as a six-fingered extra feverishly clapping after the superheroes defeat Dr Beetlewing and his legion of RoboRoaches

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

Pretty much anyone that's walked into an Apple store is already a potential extra in a future show or movie. marx-joker

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

Can't wait to see the future corporate wars over who owns the rights to Keanu Reeves likeness.

And then there will be the "Fight for Keanu" comedy which they hope will become a (licensed?) franchise.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

Emilia Clarke's likeness, for the rest of her life and beyond, is probably going to be used against her will (like she was during the Gambo show) in numerous "AI" treats like she already has been, for "funny" reasons or... otherwise.

[-] newacctidk@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Guy Henry was already perfect for the role, all of this was pointless, but Disney NEEDED to test the ethnically dubious waters so they could go hogwild with this stuff now. And I say disney specifically because all of their film studios are using this tech now. RO was the test case.

You know what George did for EPIII? He put a guy in makeup to look like Cushing and had him out of focus. Lucas had a better case for using Cushing's likeness on account of actually knowing him and iirc Cushing saying that he wished he had pushed for Tarkin to live cause he wanted to come back to star wars as soon as a sequel was announced. Yet Lucas has come out against digital actors, much as he loves new technology more than story or writing, he knows there are godamn lines

"A computer can duplicate Tom Hanks, for example, and we already use that technology a little for stunts and difficult scenes.

"But if you bring back Marilyn Monroe, what you would have is a caricature.

Lucas is himself a pioneer of digital special effects

"You could do it but you can't get a perfect actor.

"Acting is a human endeavour and the amount of talent and craft that goes into it is massive - and can a composite reproduce that?"

He added: "The voice would have to be dubbed and what was produced on screen would ultimately be the work of an animator."

The director was one of the first to make extensive use of digital technology when he used computer-generated special effects in the original Star Wars film in 1977.

But he said that recreating Hollywood greats would be a step too far.

"I can't see any reason to recreate John Wayne or Monroe.

"People don't want to see an imitation of someone who was a strong presence in real life," said Lucas.

http://www.motioncapturesociety.com/resources/articles/synthespians/93-george-lucas-speaks-out-about-digital-actors

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"People don't want to see an imitation of someone who was a strong presence in real life," said Lucas.

I wish that were more true, but too many treat hogs want more vaguely-flavored reference slop no matter how diluted, dishonest to the source's wishes and intent, and demeaning.

[-] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

Isnt it funny how we might be really reaching the end of history not politically, but culturally? Once AI is sufficiently advanced that any lizard-brained failson movie exec or record exec or advertising exec can just type their half-formed idiot ideas into a giant plagiarism machine that will scrape content from real human artists and incestuous data from other AI projects, culture will just form an ouroboros folding in on itself forever.

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