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Oopsie, Visual Studio License expired, so the build server stopped working (programming.dev)

submitted 5 days ago by RonSijm@programming.dev to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev

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Oh no, not just my build server, Microsofts build server... Everyones' Azure build server - (if you're building on windows)

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[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 244 points 5 days ago

Imagine your compiler performing a license check.

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's not using just the compiler. This agent is configured to use the full version of Visual Studio for some reason, and building through that, which requires a license. You can build via the msbuild system, which doesn't require a license.

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[-] Flipper@feddit.org 13 points 4 days ago

There are companies selling a relabeled GCC with the O flags behind the license check.

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[-] zante@lemmy.wtf 87 points 5 days ago

Like ransom ware

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[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 49 points 5 days ago

I swear to the gods, proprietary software is going to be the end of civilization...

[-] superkret@feddit.org 49 points 5 days ago

Why are text editors cloud services now?

[-] holycrap@lemm.ee 45 points 5 days ago

So they can charge subscriptions

[-] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 14 points 4 days ago

I use vim btw

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[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

IDEs have had subscriptions for ages. The build server is a cloud service because local machines can be slow to compile and not everyone has an on-site build server.

[-] AreaKode@lemmy.world 51 points 5 days ago

As a sysadmin, fuck certificates. They are the bane of my existence. I vote we abolish certs and go Irish honor system!

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

How is the Irish honor system different than a regular honor system?

[-] AreaKode@lemmy.world 39 points 5 days ago

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[-] bappity@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

certificates fucking destroy everything in my work for an hour once every year because of expiry

[-] lud@lemm.ee 22 points 5 days ago

You are supposed to be tracking when they expire and then renew/replace them before they expire.

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You are supposed to be tracking when they expire and then renew/replace them before they expire.

I've been told that, as well, but I'm not sure I see it... Seems like a lot of effort... (This is sarcasm. Or is it just too much honesty?)

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 5 days ago

Certs have existed a long time, are never implemented correctly, and the expiration cycle that is supposed to bolster security just causes pain as a result.

Certs should just be redesigned to have a kill switch. CRLs were supposed to handle that, but are rarely implemented or implemented correctly.

Certs are also used in so many places where they may not be suited to the task, but because they exist, they've become the de-facto standard.

A temporal expiration system seems flawed from the beginning anyway. What, you don't trust your system anymore just because time has passed? Time is always passing. Are we all secretly racist against clocks now?

[-] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 4 points 4 days ago

Are you talking licenses or certificates? Because if certificates are not automated that's not a problem with certificates but with administration.

[-] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 60 points 5 days ago

Absolutely proprietary

[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 44 points 5 days ago

I can't believe it's real. 🤦‍♂️

https://status.dev.azure.com/_event/543117809

[-] Jocker@sh.itjust.works 41 points 5 days ago

Microsoft Hosted Agents have an expired Visual Studio license.

Is it like, Microsoft has to renew licence with Microsoft?

Or are they pushing for an upgrade?

[-] jdeath@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

i imagine MS just hard coded a random license key into the build image and it expired. the issue doesn't say exactly tho

[-] bappity@lemmy.world 38 points 5 days ago

I don't get the appeal of azure because of things like this.

annoying how much they try to push it

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago

Moving to the cloud is a business decision not a technical one.

Csuite sees us spending Capex 200K on a server or 2 and several thousand opex per year to maintain it.

Cloud takes that 200K Capex and move it to Opex with significant markup markup.

From a technical pov we st it as a waste but business will business itself into cost overruns

[-] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 21 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

But they promised we could save a ton of money with their monitoring dashboards we won't look at until suddenly we get a bill that is 5x what they promised!

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[-] qaz@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The company I work for loves Azure. If it's not available as an Azure service it won't be used (except for uptime kuma). Some time ago there was a global Azure outage and we could do literally nothing. All tasks and code were on Azure Devops and all communication went through Teams and Outlook.

The webhook integration has also recently been removed from Teams so uptime kuma also didn't work for like a week until it was fixed by using Azure's automation service.

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[-] KingGordon@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

Azure is absolute trash. Its like Word but for the cloud.

[-] JetpackJackson@feddit.org 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I mean, they do have word for the cloud now.. But I get what you're saying

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[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 15 points 5 days ago

Walled garden or die

Thats how i read azure

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[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

Isn’t that an IDE? Why would a build server need that? Sigh.

[-] Lowpast@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago

For using msbuild or vsbuild to build C projects.

Can be installed standalone but it's typically just easier to install the full VS suite because on a shared runner it's better to include the entire kitchen.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

For C, I use Makefiles. The Microsoft ecosystem sounds like a nightmare.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

They started at Java's build system and set a course for Hell.

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[-] Trigger2_2000@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

If I have a nickel for everytime someone said "The cloud never goes down".

I'd have a lot of nickels and would spend my time doing something I like a lot more than working 🤑.

[-] cheddar@programming.dev 14 points 5 days ago

I'm not familiar with the service, can someone explain? Like, are all pipelines on Azure affected? Or is it some internal stuff where a company relying on paid tech forgot to pay for it?

[-] RonSijm@programming.dev 10 points 5 days ago

No, not some internal company, just Microsoft being Microsoft. So all Windows pipelines. They also have Linux based pipelines so not completely all pipelines.

But given that a lot of people build dotnet stuff on Azure, the 'windows-latest' image is usually the default. So a lot of pipelines

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[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 10 points 5 days ago

I think they forgot to pay themselves to use their product.