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Element X, Call and Server Suite are production ready (element.io)

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Element is launching the world’s first communications platform based on the upcoming Matrix 2.0 release. The result is blazing performance which outperforms the mainstream alternatives - across a decentralised system that enables self-hosting and end-to-end encryption - as well as open standard interoperability to revolutionise real time communication between large organisations.

Built on Matrix 2.0, Element X now rivals the performance of centralised consumer messaging apps, empowering organisations to address the shadow IT issues caused by consumer-grade messaging apps in the workplace.

The new Element communications solution consists:

Element X, our next-gen app with an array of new features

Element Call fully integrated into Element X, for native Matrix-encrypted voice and video

Element Server Suite, our backend hosting solution for powerful admin control and Matrix 2.0 performance

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[-] irotsoma@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago

Native OIDC support...something I wish more self hosted apps would prioritize. I shouldn't need to maintain a bunch of user account systems on my own servers.

[-] jadedwench@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

All I read is Marketing Tech Speak that sounds no different than anything else that gets advertised in my face. At work, we use Teams. It is a pain sometimes when it gets a little buggy, but integrates into SharePoint/OneDrive and the noise suppression in meetings is pretty awesome. At home I use discord or GChat because that is where all my friends are. I don't assume I have privacy on any of these platforms and they all work on my phone and computer.

How is the user experience? Ultimately, give me privacy, but if the user experience and UI don't give any improvements over the corporate ones, I will have to try it some other time.

[-] sweng@programming.dev 6 points 3 hours ago

You can self-host it, making it as private as you want.

[-] jadedwench@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

But my question is about the user experience and UI. I can run a docker script, but I care about the thing I can see and interact with.

[-] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 59 minutes ago)

The user experience is generally worse than Discord, like any federated system compared to centralized platforms.

There is Cinny, a client with an UI similar to Discord. Element X is a great mobile client, and imo far superior to Discord for 1 on 1 chats (to be fair, I really dislike Discord 1 on 1 chat experience, so I'm biased).

Edit: It's worth noting that Element X does not support Spaces yet, which allows for grouping of rooms similar to Discord Server.

[-] lambda@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

"Blazing fast" makes me check out so fast.

[-] anarchist@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 hours ago

Not available on f droid yet it seems

[-] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 minutes ago

https://f-droid.org/packages/io.element.android.x/

[-] DiabolicalBird@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

[-] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 minutes ago

https://f-droid.org/packages/io.element.android.x/

[-] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 hours ago

Schildi chat has SchildiNext on f-droid

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[-] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 7 points 11 hours ago

Space support and multi account support and I'll install it. Fluffychat has many features but still laggy.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 points 7 hours ago

I currently use Synapse with bridges to Signal and Discord, and Matrix API. Is Element X a better way to go server-side now?

[-] Preflight_Tomato@lemm.ee 9 points 13 hours ago

I’m still sad they stopped work on dendrite. P2P level decentralization, with E2EE, would be amazing.

These are still great improvements though. I'm hyped that loading seems to be so much faster.

[-] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 5 points 12 hours ago

They didn't though? Source?

[-] qaz@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

What's the difference between the normal app and element X? Why create a new app?

EDIT: I installed it, but can't verify for some reason.

EDIT: It works now, and it's very fast compared to the other client. It's a shame spaces aren't supported.

[-] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago

Normy here, I think it's a whole different framework which is faster and more reliable I think. Also the normal app technology outdated so maybe it's difficult to add new features to it.

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 hours ago

Good ol' Rust Rewrite fixing everything.

[-] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 27 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I had just uninstalled Element X like two weeks ago because I found it to under perform compared to the normal Element client on Android, in addition to lacking some features. I guess I'll give it another shot.

Update: WOW this thing feels lightning fast compared to just a few weeks ago. This is great. Not sure about feature completeness, but based on speed I think I'll migrate Element > Element X again. Great job to the team!

[-] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

It hans't changed speedwise for me. It has been lightning fast since it's first release

[-] Scio@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago

Still no Spaces support. Even the short list of rooms I've joined are unmanageable when listed flat with no way to identify which Space a #general belongs to

[-] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

This is dependent on matrix-rust-sdk, when (if) it ends up supporting it, all apps using the SDK will be able to add support for spaces

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[-] xnx@slrpnk.net 8 points 17 hours ago

Screensharing would let so many people move from discord

[-] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 56 minutes ago

Discord uses their own screen sharing implementation because it performs better than what's available in Electron by default. I don't expect Element to achieve that, considering their focus isn't gaming.

[-] AnxiousDuck@feddit.it 1 points 1 hour ago

Last time I checked they had it in the web version

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[-] azron@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 day ago

"invisible cryptography" I sure hope this isn't an empty promise. The number one gripe I have with matrix/element is the absolutely horrendous crypto dance they make you do.