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[-] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago
[-] Eiri@lemmy.ca 6 points 15 hours ago

I wonder what would happen. Let's say 10,000 people.

Let's say some extremist, highly organized group manages to successfully assassinate the 10,000 richest people in the world, and then disappears without a trace.

I'm guessing those people would all be succeeded by their next of kin. Would that cause a wave of change or...?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Let’s say some extremist, highly organized group manages to successfully assassinate the 10,000 richest people in the world, and then disappears without a trace.

The problem is that these billionaires profit the most from a system of resource exploitation, but they do not benefit exclusively. We'd still have hundreds of billions of dollars in fossil fuel centric infrastructure that we'd need to replace and reconfigure. And that reconfiguration would require a national organized effort.

Ultimate, you can't just wave a wand and make Rich People Go Away. You need a national project that is both popular and efficient. One that reduces emissions while improving quality of life. You need a Green New Deal.

That's not something you can affect purely from subtraction.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

You're correct. It would cause some disruption and a lot of joy, but system would continue. It need to be overthrown entirely and new one built. That is, proletarian revolution is needed.

[-] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago

my boy/girl.

[-] InputZero@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago

You'd have to also threaten to assassinate their inheritors from taking the estate, or just take the estate. Either way that's violence. The question then becomes is it okay to use the Master's tools to build your own house, to which my answer is no I can't. I can use the Master's tools to tear down their own houses. I may be a bit too idealistic though.

[-] fin@sh.itjust.works 21 points 23 hours ago

I’ve seen this meme a while ago and I saw someone saying he wants to run over the billionaires back and forth to make sure they’re dead and I deeply agree with that.

[-] zcd@lemmy.ca 78 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

A little billionaire cocktail math for you. Each billionaire emits in the neighbourhood of 1 million times more CO2 than the average person. So you streetcar just 3000 or so billionaires and that's the equivalent of reducing the earth's population by about 3 billion. Can't really think of anything greener

[-] tyler@programming.dev 29 points 1 day ago

Not that I don’t believe you but I’d love to cite this in future discussions, where did you get your stats from?

[-] tee9000@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Thats their investments, not their personal use. According to your source anyway.

[-] Sbauer@lemmy.world -2 points 12 hours ago

The emissions from their investments ... thats the same as the emissions of your place of work or the emissions of the company you buy your stuff from. Lets blame that on an extremely small group of people instead of the billions of people who consume the products enabling them.

[-] tee9000@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Yep there might be plenty we disagree with regarding their investments and their affect on the environment but we are just lying to ourselves to say people arent making a living due to some of those investments, having our lives enriched, and generally benefitting us in ways we would demand to keep if they were all magically erased.

Kind of useless to talk about this in any way to come to a sentimental conclusion though because we arent looking at a distribution of data to inform us what generates the most environmental impact and how much value we actually get from it each investment. Its just a big ambigious number until we look into it. Which we wont. Because nobody here actually cares enough.

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 9 points 19 hours ago

Billionaires brought the tram and dismantled it for car infrastructure

[-] CliveDrinksCola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 21 hours ago

that's a scarily large amount of billionaires

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Another consequence of inflation, I suppose.

[-] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 12 points 21 hours ago

That's 2700 more than what I would like

[-] don@lemm.ee 32 points 1 day ago

Put a sniper on top of the cart in case the switchman gets bought out. Ain’t taking no chances.

[-] xintrik@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

And when the sniper gets paid off?

[-] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 13 points 1 day ago

Now there's 2702 billionaires to take out...

[-] RandomVideos@programming.dev 3 points 20 hours ago

So killing them saves 1.00074 habitable biospheres?

[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

I see no problem in this trolley problem.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[-] idunnololz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

B...but the shareholders! Won't someone please think of the shareholders. 😢

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

2700? That's more than I thought.

[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 22 hours ago

Add on the left workers rights, freedom, and real economic prosperity

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 12 points 1 day ago

Trolley problems usually have some conflict that makes the decision hard.

[-] onlooker@lemmy.ml 4 points 20 hours ago

Exactly. There's no moral dillema here. I'm keeping the switch in the "left" position and welding it in place, just in case.

[-] kungen@feddit.nu 11 points 1 day ago

We'd see some real trickle-down in that case.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago

Lest we forget, trolley tracks are electrified sogo ahead and let ol jg gotrox step on one

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