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[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 150 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

As somebody told me the other day, they beat Hitler, they beat Napoleon.

In case any of you lurking Trump voters here need another example to ignore of how this person has no business in government and is too ignorant to be president. You are complicit in an impending tragedy to your history and the world.

This guy says he is the one who can stop World War III and people believe it. Embarrassing and terrifying, weird just doesn’t cut it.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 71 points 1 month ago

Trump voters don't care, dude. They are more ignorant than he is.

[-] Whirling_Cloudburst@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

Many of them believe they need to help fulfill biblical prophesy in order to hasten the last battle of armageddon so that they may rule the world as kings for christ. Many of whom work in government and military groups.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 14 points 1 month ago

Many of whom work in government and military groups.

Pence is one of them. Christian dominionists... Fucking nutjobs.

Imagine worshipping a god but also trying some "Jesus hates this one neat trick to make him arrive early!" bullshit...

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[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

They think they want WW3 (or civil war 2). Gonna be a massive wakeup call if they actually find out what that really means. It ain't gonna be like the movies.

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

LoL, yeah.

And they beat the Nazis with a looooot of help from the US, pooring equipment into the Soviet Union, and then drafted the hell out of their country and sacrificed millions.

The Napoleonic war was when soldiers muzzle loaded their guns and prrimarily armies travelled by foot or rode horses. And kept warm in the winter by normally not going out to fight wars.

[-] coyootje@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

They also very much had the advantage of knowing their terrain and both Hitler and Napoleon got cocky and kept going during winter time without being prepared for it. Hitler especially was actually making good progress until winter hit so you could almost even say that Russia took a calculated risk (even though I think it's more of a "got lucky" situation).

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 11 points 1 month ago

Not to mention the disingenuousness of leaving out how they lost to Hindenburg and Ludendorff in between those two

[-] seejur@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Reminder that when it was Napoleon "defending" (battles vs the coalitions), he absolutely handled Emperor Alexander (Russia) ass in the field. See Austerlitz

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Yeah people seem to think nuclear powers cannot lose wars. Afghanistan, Vietnam and several other countries would like to chime in.

Look nuclear escalation is a theoretical option, bit in practice it's a lot harder than people think. And now with the recent sarmat test, war on Russian soil, the broad attacks on Russian infrastructure, gigantic losses and Russia relying on north Korea for production of artillery shells.. Russia looks weaker than ever.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Look nuclear escalation is a theoretical option, bit in practice it’s a lot harder than people think.

For two reasons in this case.

  1. Russia knows that the wind can blow radioactive ash across their border.

  2. Putin has grandchildren and dictators want legacies.

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The other people in Putin's administration also have their own families and interests and wouldn't want that put at risk by nuclear annihilation. Even if Putin himself tried to give the go-ahead, I doubt those in charge of the nukes would want to effectively commit suicide over Putin's stupid invasion by firing them.

[-] Syntha@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

As if this is what was needed to prove it. Trump once answered a question about the failings of western liberalism by talking about how liberal cities on the west coast were doing badly.

[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

He really is a remarkably stupid person.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 123 points 1 month ago

I'm sure none of you need me to tell you this, but I feel the need to say it anyway- Trump brought up Hitler and Napoleon being unable to defeat Russia.

It's really fucking different when you are being invaded. Than when you are the invader.

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 72 points 1 month ago

Someone told Trump those things happened. He has no grasp on any of the details.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I wonder what his response would be if someone told him Poland never surrendered to Hitler either, moved it's government and attacked back and took back their home. Thereby Polands record against Hitler would be 1-0. It also would indicate they survived the Soviet Unions invasion of Poland as well.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Poland's leaders also never signed a non-aggression pact with Hitler. They knew better.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

The Soviets were complete jackasses to their allies. For example, they refused to allow American bombers to launch raids on Japan from eastern Russia, forcing the Allies to do a brutal island-hopping campaign to get them within range.

Then, when a few B-29s were too damaged to make the long flight back to the island and diverted to Russia, they confiscated the planes and imprisoned their crews until the end of the war.

Then, after the war, they dismantled two of the planes so they could figure out how to build a good airplane and claimed it as their own and called it the Tu-4.

Oh, and they also threw Andrei Tupolev into a gulag because he couldn't meet Stalin's insane demands.

[-] Johnny5@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Nah this would just unlock a new trove of racist tropes for him

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I know, I just had to point out why it was so stupid or it would have killed me.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 28 points 1 month ago

Napoleon and Hitler couldn't but Emperor Meiji (1905), Kaiser Wilhelm (1917), President Piłsudski (1920) and the Mujahideen (1980s) managed just fine, just to mention the 20th century.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

IIRC even sweden kicked some ruski butt.

Edit: Finland for sure! My memory about sweden was that it happened way before WW2.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago
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[-] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 90 points 1 month ago
  • orange turd claims to want to pull US out of NATO, whose primary adversary is Russia

  • orange turd saying he'll stop funding Ukraine's defense against Russian invasion

  • Right-wing groups outright shown to be funded by Russia

  • orange turd has been known to be friendly with, and speak positively of, leaders of Russia, N Korea, and China... knowingly not to be friendly with NATO nations.

If this doesn't scream to you where his loyalties are and where this country is headed...

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

he had a private meeting with putin where no translators or notes were allowed.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/summit-secret-happened-helsinki-putin-trump/story?id=78273344

he stole national security secrets including nuclear secrets.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65852286

how the fuck can republicans want him for president?

[-] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

how the fuck can republicans want him for president?

Maybe because the Russians backed him as their candidate in 2016, 2020, and now in 2024 (the enemy of my enemy and all that), the Russians have been buying Republican support wholesale since at least then, the Republicans have always valued money and power over all else, and the few Republicans who had qualms about it are long gone?

Just some ideas.

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[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

he had a private meeting with putin where no translators or notes were allowed.

Shit, somehow I forgot about this one. Unbelievable the shit this man was able to get away with.

[-] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 80 points 1 month ago
[-] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Russian Asshat

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[-] troed@fedia.io 47 points 1 month ago

Trump doesn't know the difference between the Soviet Union and Russia.

Because that's what Putin wants his minions to believe.

Ukraine were largely the force that defeated the Nazis on the east front in WWII - not Russia. Both were however part of the Soviet Union at the time.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 31 points 1 month ago

Ethnic Russians were the largest proportion of the killed in action by quite a margin, let's not pretend that they weren't doing their part. Ukraine was too, of course - the people that pretend Ukraine just jumped ship and shacked up with the Nazis at the first opportunity are doing an unbelievable disservice to the millions of Ukrainians that died fighting the Nazis - but the huge population disparity between Russia and every other Soviet republic does show in the data.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Nah, Ukrainians served in disproportionately large numbers considering most of Ukraine was occupied by the Nazis, but ethnic Russians contributed roughly equivalent to their proportion of the Soviet Union.

[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 month ago

Fuck this worthless fucking piece of shit.

Apologies ahead of time for the coarse opinion, but this shitbag has no remote concept of the preciousness of any life aside of his own.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Putin should clean his fat suit more often.

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[-] ravhall@discuss.online 13 points 1 month ago

This should make the tankies happy right? No more funding warfare.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

It could not be clearer. Nine years ago I felt like Cassandra, now I just feel like Ren Hoek.

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