At this point for me, trying to get games working on Linux has become easier than trying to get telemetry to stop working on Windows.

Oh, my daily driver is a linux, i just have a spare surface book 3 i use occasionally for gaming (the thing is surprisingly powerful)

Idk how well linux would support detaching and touchscreen with pen. But I’ll definitely switch the os to linux sometime in the future when i get a new gaming rig.

It's such a dumb fucking feature too.
"Oh god forbid my email client and messaging app refresh 5 seconds after I wake my laptop instead of being already refreshed"
Who actually cares? Who on earth asked for this zombie sleep state?

Linus explored that bug, it's not so much with recent laptops as it is with Windows sleep in general. For some god forsaken reason, if your laptop is connected to a network while plugged in and you put it to sleep, and then unplug your laptop from the power, it will burn through its battery and die. This doesn't happen if you unplug your laptop before you put it into sleep mode. My guess is that while it's plugged in, Windows thinks it's fine for it to run a bit hotter, but when you unplug it while it's in sleep mode, it doesn't realise it's not plugged in anymore and drains the battery. Idk how they have still not fixed this after many years, but it is still a problem.

Here's Microsoft's information page on it:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/device-experiences/modern-standby

As the time goes I just miss my old laptop more and more. What's next, no shutdown feature?

Same for most AMD laptops as well.

Which has its pros and cons, but that still doesn't mean it should invade your privacy.

I only learned this during the pandemic when i started working from home and my work laptop would wake up at 1am, fans blasting 100%

Or my laptop would wake up in my backpack during my commute and drain the whole battery...

I opened a helpdesk ticket and they didnt know why. Their solution was "just turn off your laptop"....

After doing my owm digging, i realized S3 was gone and windows just does whatever the fuck it wants

The thing is, the device was in suspend for a couple days now.

So, let me grasp your comment, are you saying that this is not creepy at all?

EDIT: To clarify, I find both things creepy, the telemetry and the insistence to ping home no matter what.

Go to your NIC's properties and scroll down to disable WAKE ON MAGIC PACKETS.

If you have any device that scans for your MAC (probably your router) it will wake up. Drove me crazy until I figured it out

Yeah, that sounds like ghosts.

I had something similar a while back, where it was waking up from sleep for no reason. I can't remember the exact reason, but it had to do with a hardware being allowed to wake the device. I disabled it from being able to wake the machine and haven't had a problem again. You can use the cmd to find which device woke your pc.

That is because recent laptops don't "sleep" like before with s4 (hybernate) or other sx.

They have some sort of tucking clock waiting for windows to wake up to check for updates.

In theory it allows to keep everything up to date while people are not working.

However un proactice, it drains battery and overheats laptops, because Microsoft implemented that feature like crap, or the partners did some stupid things.

It was supposed to only activate when the laptop was plugged in. However if the laptop was plugged in, put on sleep, then unplugged, windows still believed that the laptop was plugged in.

Now I don't know if windows ever solved that issue after people brought it up and Linus from Linus tech tips complained to Microsoft.

Yes that is the local ip of the pc phoning home

Shutdown is hybrid sleep anyway. Best of both worlds.

Also FYI you have to restart to properly shut down Windows now. If you shut down and then turn it back on it will just resume from S4 hybrid sleep. Shut down does not normally shut down, it enters a zero power sleep state. Restart actually shuts down and reboots the OS.

I think hybernation is really meant for when you want near zero power but a little trickle for something specific to wake the PC, eg an external device or network port. You can also sometimes do this directly in BIOS, if it has the facility.