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can we just have trains already please (lemmy.world)

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[-] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I follow a YouTuber that covers everytime they find someone reinventing something. In no particular order:
train, https://youtu.be/YUpST_cQ1hM
train, https://youtu.be/dNzjk-kiUmQ
Pump storage hydroelectricity aka water battery (pump water up when have energy, drop down when need energy) https://youtu.be/dNzjk-kiUmQ
train, https://youtu.be/r5M7Oq1PCz4
trees, https://youtu.be/Ajdd9LeKwTQ
bus, https://youtu.be/GcKUYbChE3A

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 3 points 18 hours ago

I kind of lost faith in Adam Something after he advocated for requiring everyone to use their real name online to "expose them to consequences for what they say" (and then did an ad read for DeleteMe in the same video)

[-] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

dang that's sad to see :/, also pretty funny that that's coming from someone who goes by the name "adam something"

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Without even clicking I knew this was gonna be the solar fricking roadways guy.

Edit: oh wait, no, I actually thought 2 different guys were the same. I meant this guy: https://youtu.be/H901KdXgHs4?feature=shared

And of course he also has his take of the cyber bus: https://youtu.be/8x4pMfBSU_U?feature=shared

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

i know he acts like that, but he's actually 53.

edit: oh, by "joke" you mean the tweet. never mind.

[-] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 64 points 2 days ago

Trains
Trams
Ebikes
Public Busses

In that order, preferably. Fuck this techbro shit.

[-] Grappling7155@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago

You’re forgetting a fundamental one:

Sidewalks

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 days ago

Technology is not mature yet, we'll need another 10 years til we could make those work.

[-] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago

Just let Elon Musk handle it, it will be ready in two year tops. Perpetually two years away.

[-] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

He'll get two miles of underground sidewalks put in during four of those two years.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

And 6 years after starting his two year project it'll go bankrupt because no one is paying to use his underground sidewalk service.

[-] Demdaru@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

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[-] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

YUP

[-] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I live close to my workplace and have been a skater most of my life, bought an electric one and I take it to work whenever the weather is nice.

It's a great cash save and the board itself is awesome fun and very fucking quick.

[-] Toribor@corndog.social 3 points 1 day ago

What about little electric scooters that you can rent with an app but we just dump them all over the fucking sidewalk when no one is using them.

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[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

I want state owned electric self driving g taxis. I want to walk out of my door and get in the neighborhood self driving bus to take me (up to) 2 miles from work, where I can either walk or use a lil razer scooter to get to my job.

Alas, I work 62 miles away from home.

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's because they all live in the US.

If the operated out of the UK they would know what a bus was. It would be late of course, but at least they would see them.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

We have busses.

Tech bros are afraid of poor people and only poor people take the bus. We obviously need a luxury bus to service tech startups.

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[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 77 points 2 days ago

Don't get me wrong, I would absolutely dearly love to have proper trains running on time to every location.

But we basically made a souffle, and you're asking us to turn it into chocolate cake.

We could get away with an advanced network of buses.

[-] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

Not really, we removed a TON of stuff to make way for roads. We're over 100 years out of date, its just a matter of funding.

[-] karl0sagentofchaso@lemmings.world 15 points 2 days ago

In the before shot the whole place is full of trees. So so many trees, I can see like 1/20th of them in the later picture.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The kicker is that each inch of that highway is a money sinkhole. In maintenance and lost tax from land ownership tax that will not be paid.

[-] DempstersBox@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Ugh. Jesus christ.

And yet, people living in vehicles are 'homeless' and looked down upon. They've left no room for anything else to be realistic

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[-] jqubed@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago

Buses are great for public transit and the most cost effective option for some communities. There also seems to be a stigma against buses, though, where people are more willing to take a train than a bus. I’m starting to suspect that stigma extends to people wanting to build trains instead of buses that can get the same job done for less money than building a brand new train system.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago

There also seems to be a stigma against buses, though, where people are more willing to take a train than a bus.

I'll absolutely take a train over a bus if they are going to the same destination.

train has fewer stops meaning train reaches the destination faster
train has ultimate right-of-way, and doesn't have to stop for pedestrians on the tracks, red lights, or other things
trains in some cities, go under waterways meaning more direct routes than busses
there's more space inside trains and usually more choice of seats. Standing is also an option which isn't allowed on most busses
acceleration and deceleration are more predictable and comfortable
nearly all metro light rail trains are powered by electricity, while many city busses remain diesel

[-] michaelnik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

There could be dedicated separated bus lanes - I saw one in my world travels but never in USA. IMHO it is a better solution for short distance (i.e non-competing with plane) than inflexible heavy metro transit infra...

[-] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Most of those can addressed by busses too actually.

Train has fewer stops meaning train reaches the destination faster

Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) or any bus line can have less stop for this reason. To expand on BRT routes, they can be dedicated lanes for busses, with right of way. They can be specific only for busses, and cars not allowed to use it ever or also mixed usage where certain rush hours are for bus use only but outside those hours can be used by other vehicles.

Train has ultimate right-of-way, and doesn't have to stop for pedestrians on the tracks, red lights, or other things

This can also be done with BRT routes.

trains in some cities, go under waterways meaning more direct routes than busses

BRT as well.

there's more space inside trains and usually more choice of seats. Standing is also an option which isn't allowed on most busses

Busses can absolutely support this. Paris has more open busses to allow more people standing or people with disabilities.

acceleration and deceleration are more predictable and comfortable

With dedicated BRT lanes, I believe that can also be done considering there's only bus stops that need to be slowed down on.

Nearly all metro light rail trains are powered by electricity, while many city busses remain diesel

I know technically electric busses are possible, but I'm not certain how feasible this is.

My understanding is that BRT routes are cheaper and faster to setup than trains, and can be upgraded to trains. I'm not saying BRT is better than light or heavy rail, but that should be a more common path for mass transit that is not utilized in the US.

[-] IHateReddit@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

trains can drive at higher speeds than buses
train wheels don't emit microplastic particles like bus tires do
trains are significantly safer than buses
trains move on tracks which results in them moving in a stable and predictable way while buses often shake more which can result in people feeling sick (happens to me often when taking the bus)

[-] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago

train wheels don't emit microplastic particles like bus tires do

we can help solve this by using plastic breaks on trains

[-] IHateReddit@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

finally someone who provides a solution to the problem!

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[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

For this discussion, you're really torturing the definition of a bus if you're going to use BRT to mean busses. BRT does not meet most peoples definition of "city bus" as the conversation up to now has suggested.

I’m not saying BRT is better than light or heavy rail, but that should be a more common path for mass transit that is not utilized in the U

BRT would nearly always be a zero sum solution to make your statement true. You would have to subtract from current roads that accommodate traffic to create BRT to meet your metric. Land, espeically in dense cities is nearly always already allocated. If anything besides the zero sum BRT, light rail would likely be a better choice than BRT because it can subterranean or elevated with fewer building challenges/dangers.

I’m not saying BRT is better than light or heavy rail, but that should be a more common path for mass transit that is not utilized in the US

I'm interested in an example of a city you have a in mind that BRT would be a better choice than city busses or light rail.

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[-] kemsat@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

The point is to not ride the public transportation with the lesser peoples.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

and 2. class wagons?

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 14 points 2 days ago

Twitter is bad.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

City busses are good too

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Are a good idea, yes.

Many places intentionally hamper them to make them useless to perpetuate the idea of government incompetence and to deny the peasantry easy of access and transport, though.

Especially when they are slower than just straight up walking.

[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

The end goal of robo-taxis is to shuttle people between the home/destination and the train station.

[-] SeekPie@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago

Wouldn't buses/trams be more efficient at that? They move more than 1 person to their desired destination.

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[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 days ago

We already have that in my city, it’s called Metro Micro and it costs $2.50 and includes a free transfer to public transit.

I don’t know what Musk thinks he’s going to charge for it, but I doubt it’ll be better than that.

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