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[-] machinin@lemmy.world 126 points 1 month ago

Stop enabling the genocide? Please?

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago

All they have to do is pledge to follow the Leahy Law....

Israel won't comply, which means we legally can't provide arms. Kamala doesn't even have to be "the bad guy", she can just say she's choosing to follow American law and if Israel wants arms then they can comply like every other recipient has to.

It's really as easy as saying:

If elected I will not break American law to send arms to foreign countries.

Boom, election locked up.

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

How many voters would she lose if she declared intent to stop assisting Isreal?

She might possibly gain a few, but would she lose any?

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Is not about voters, it's about money. Both parties are bribed to keep it going.

[-] nednobbins@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

It's a valid question and I'm sure the Harris campaign has spent considerable resources trying to get a good estimate of that number.

It's pretty insane that the Democratic party officials have to say, "We'd love to stop funding a genocide but our members won't vote for us if we do that."

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago

She'd gain more than she'd lose, even before counting in the electoral college. Conditioning Israeli aid is supported by the majority of people of Democrats, Republicans and independents, and the people who don't want it don't care too much either way. Definitely not more than left wingers who want the genocide to stop. In terms of votes it's a no brainer.

[-] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

She would likely gain voters because she would be distinguishing herself from Biden who remains deeply unpopular.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

Yes. Enough to lose. These people don't seem to understand this (or refuse to)

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

This is THE potential problem with this

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I would hope there are more anti-genocide voters but i doubt it, honestly.

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[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

You people really have a massively inflated concept of how many voting progressives that there are. Get off the internet for a while...

Harris would 100% lose the election if she said that.

[-] Sundial@lemm.ee 26 points 1 month ago

Best they can do is thoughts and prayers. Oh wait, that was school shootings. Never mind then.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago

School bombings don't qualify.

[-] Sundial@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago

Israelis don't have the guts to even look the children in their eyes as they slaughter them. Cowards.

[-] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago

When they actually face real soldiers like in Southern Lebanon they get their arses handed to them.

All they know is blow up pager, burn refugee camp, bomb hospitals, shoot pregnant women in belly, rape men to death, and sniper bullets in kid’s heads.

[-] nednobbins@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

I'm also offended by Israeli war crimes but I don't think that's an accurate assessment.

As far as I can tell, the Israeli military is very good at violence. They're extremely well equipped, they have superb training, and their military personnel tend to be dedicated to their cause.

The main problem isn't their ability to kill and destroy, it's their indiscriminate use of that ability.

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[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

machinin was thrown out of a window

Anybody? Any solution will do, cmon people

[-] Lennny@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Not those islams!

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[-] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 71 points 1 month ago

If you aren't anti-arab a nice gesture might be to stop murdering them.

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

But there is a lot of water in Lebanon. Israel wants that.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

Yeah, good luck with that. Islamophobia is one of Trump's tentpoles.

[-] basmati@lemmus.org 4 points 1 month ago

It also happens to be one of Harris' tent poles.

[-] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 month ago

This is Peak Liberalism. Saying this while genociding them.

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 month ago

"we SEE you, we HEAR you, but Israel needs money . . ."

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[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Peak liberalism

[-] diffusive@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No more Islamophobia if there aren’t Islamic people any more 🤷‍♂️ /s

[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago

This is pure Liberal brainrot, sometimes reality feels like a parody of itself. I dont even have much to say tbh, im too tired for this bs.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 9 points 1 month ago

Setting aside the hypocrisy, is it just me or is it infuriating how the whole article is a whole lot of nothing?

[-] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 5 points 1 month ago

Did you even read it? It states literally 20 bullets on how the Executive Branch will combat racism.

[-] nednobbins@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I just read that list. As near as I can tell they put a lot of words in that don't actually promise anything helpful. Maybe I'm wrong.

Let's make it as easy as possible to show this plan in a good light. Instead of finding one bad bullet point in that list and tearing it up, let's see if we can find one good one.

Out of that entire list, which bullet point do you think has the best chance to actually "counter Islamophobia and Anti-Arab Hate?"

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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Not only hypocrisy, but also not true at all lol.

Biden pretty much okay'd Universities arresting their students to stop protests because his lobbyists threatened to withhold funding for both the party and each respective university.

Of course he didn't care about the zionist mob that attacked UCLA students, so it's pretty clear where he stands.

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

wtf is wrong with these people!

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Fucking pathetic.

[-] Letsdothis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Anti-arab hate... let's see... Arab hate is bad, so anti-arab hate is good... but they are trying to "counter" anti-arab hate, so that's bad?

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