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https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2021/06/how-the-fossil-fuel-industry-convinced-americans-to-love-gas-stoves/

Surveys showed that most people had no preference for gas water heaters and furnaces over electric ones. So the gas companies found a different appliance to focus on. For decades, sleek industry campaigns have portrayed gas stoves [...] as a coveted symbol of class and sophistication

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The sales pitches worked. The prevalence of gas stoves in new single-family American homes climbed from less than 30 percent during the 1970s to about 50 percent in 2019.

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Beginning in the 1990s, the industry faced a new challenge: mounting evidence that burning gas indoors can contribute to serious health problems. [...]

Cooking is the No. 1 way you’re polluting your home.

https://archive.ph/Aiyd2

You have more control over temperature on an induction cooktop than you have with a gas cooktop, but there is a learning curve. Samsung induction cooktops show a blue "virtual flame", which can help a new user visualize the amount of heat going to the pan.

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[-] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 41 points 13 hours ago

Phasing out gas cooking should always be a health and safety issue, I see people talk about the effects on children, but never about cooks who work in kitchens with a dozen burners running all day

One thing that really bugs me is we use gas to create steam to generate electricity to boil an electric kettle to boil water, really a minor pet peve here

another thing on cooking. so many home cooking appliances are dogshit, unsafe, too loud, and emit fumes with poor ventilation, and my new conspiracy is the modern nuclear family thing takes away power from unionised workplaces

[-] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 46 points 13 hours ago

Induction ranges are as good as gas, but they're also new and expensive. Coil element ranges are not as good as gas, because they are slow to respond to changes.

You absolutely can get used to a coil range and do good cooking on them, but it's disingenuous to say they're as good as gas, and it hurts our argument for phasing out gas ranges to say that they are.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 11 points 10 hours ago

I'll give you induction is just as good but they're fucking expensive and it limits what cookware you can use if I understand correctly from when we were last looking.

We were stuck with a shitty old electric stove in our house and upgrading to a gas stove is a massive improvement. Idk what trying to say that electric is as good as gas does other than get anyone who cooks daily to disregard your opinion.

It's pretty nice ro be able to actually bring a full stock pot to a boil in less than 40 minutes.

[-] Palacegalleryratio@hexbear.net 16 points 12 hours ago

Absolutely true. I have used gas, induction, electric coil, ceramic. In terms of utility for cooking, gas and induction are the top two, with induction being slightly better in my experience.

Electric coil is bad and the ceramic version isn’t much of an improvement. It’s possible to cook well, but the pulsed nature of the heat is not great for fine temp control with a reactive pan (e.g. steel and aluminium ply) but it’s still fine for something like cast iron which is non responsive anyway, it smooths the heat out just fine.

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I prefer a coil to induction if we're talking capabilities. You can work around slow responses on coil by using 2 burners or simply pulling the pan and allowing inertia to cook while a single burner cools.

You can't workaround an induction's inability to convect when convection is called for.

Water boils more slowly, sure, but it will boil eventually

[-] Formerlyfarman@hexbear.net 1 points 6 hours ago

Where I live electricity is rationed, gass is not. I can afford to cook with gas. If I were to use electricity I would exceed the allowed usage and they would charge insane fees.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 hours ago

I've never used induction, is it that bad?

[-] Real_User@hexbear.net 5 points 8 hours ago

No, it's fine. It doesn't change temp instantly like gas does but how often do you really need that?

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[-] PapaEmeritusIII@hexbear.net 24 points 12 hours ago

Here come the treat defenders

grillman grill

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[-] Gorb@hexbear.net 10 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I rly wanna get an induction hob but costs money :(

Also wanna get rid of my gas boiler but also costs money :(

UK homes suck gas everything. I love needing to have a carbon monoxide alarm in my home for pointless fossil fuel shit

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 hours ago

Really wish I could get a half gas half induction cooktop. They both have their pros and cons. However the pollution con of gas can be remedied with proper ventilation

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[-] KoboldKomrade@hexbear.net 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Excellent long-ish video: https://youtu.be/eUywI8YGy0Y

He has a follow up about induction woks. The short: Induction is just as good as if not better then gas for actually moving heat from the stovetop to your food.

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[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 29 points 14 hours ago

My boomer parents always insisted on having gas stoves. They also never fucking cooked lmao

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[-] REgon@hexbear.net 19 points 13 hours ago

okay but how else am I supposed to light my ciggies or feel like a chef

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 11 points 11 hours ago

Electric ranges start having those old car cigarette lighters lol

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[-] Blockocheese@hexbear.net 6 points 10 hours ago

My adoptive mother would turn the electric range on with the end of the cigarette on it if she didn't have a lighter.

It stinks up your entire fucking house but does work

[-] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 19 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

My partner insisted on a gas stove despite my protests in our last two places because of the "control". The few times we used electric or induction cookers on vacation she would get really frustrated.

Cut to our current place that just came with an electric cooker with no option for gas. A few months in and she's got no complaints and even comments on how it's not that different once you get used to it.

The learning curve is real, and some people will push back at first, but if forced to, I'm pretty sure every single person can figure out cooking just as well with electric.

[-] CarbonConscious@hexbear.net 5 points 10 hours ago

I've had both over the last few years, and while the cooking experience is not all that different tbh, the one thing that bugs me about my current glass-top electric stove is that the surface is so flat that my ever-so-slightly warped carbon steel pan doesn't sit flat and rocks all over the place and doesn't heat evenly. I've basically been unable to use it since moving here, and it's my favorite pan. :(

But if I had my choice, I'd ofc go induction, but between the other two I'd still go electric, just for the fumes alone. But I'll probably be way less hot on the idea of glass-tops in the future, that's for sure.

[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 5 points 10 hours ago

I for one, refuse to ignite my flambe with a torch like a peasant! My gas range does it for me and I get to feel like mother fucking Gordon Ramsay!

[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 23 points 14 hours ago

I use an induction stove top. It gets hot faster than gas.

[-] nothx@hexbear.net 14 points 12 hours ago

The induction stove top i had at my last apartment was one of my favorites because of its ease to clean. It functioned really well, but it was also like wiping down any other flat surface. With my current gas stove top i need to pull all the grates off, dismantle the burners, scrub in hard to reach places that seem to attract food.... It's honestly a miserable chore.

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