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[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 29 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

There's still a nightlife in Kyiv? The war there is worlds apart from what's happening in Gaza. Gaza hasn't had electricity or water for a year now.

[-] stink@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 20 hours ago

Yes but Blinken said Russia is committing genocide so la la la la la I cant hear you!!!

Slava ukrainazis!!!!

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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 38 points 21 hours ago

@poVoq@slrpnk.net how many more Ukrainians are going to have to be murdered by the regime for you to be happy?

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 10 points 21 hours ago

You're finally admitting that the Russian invasion is murder?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 37 points 21 hours ago

I'm talking about the murder of people who are being gang pressed into fighting by the fascist regime the west installed and people like you support.

[-] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 0 points 20 hours ago

Isn't umm fighting against invasion is required by law for most countries?

[-] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 18 hours ago

Sometimes the law is wrong, and following it is wrong

Dying for nothing in a lost war is one of those times

[-] wellfill@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Let's not forget that most countries also have constitutions. The citizens constitutional rights cannot be overshadowed by draft. Therefore forcible totalitarian draft is not legal. Here it's problematic because sovereign legal institutions are non existent in Ukraine and lets admit that in many states legal institutions would crumble when defending citizens rights against violent governments.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 9 points 20 hours ago

Weird way to justify people being forced to fight into something they clearly don't believe in or have any interest defending.

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[-] lps@social.trom.tf 11 points 20 hours ago

@yogthos For any western liberal that is cheering on this bloodshed on behalf of Western capitalist powers, I invite you to jump on a plane and pick up a rifle.

This conflict has only two outcomes. A peace deal through negotiations as with any war in history, or WWIII.

Sadly, the American stance "we will fight Russia down to the last Ukrainian" is the reality. Once the smoke clears, if there was a victory, it will be the property of Western interests like Black Rock.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 20 hours ago

Seriously, wish all these people would just sign up for the foreign legion and put their money where their mouth is.

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[-] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Just today Zaluzhnyi (ex AFU Commander-in-Chief) said that if needed, they will start mobilizing (so kidnapping from the streets, etc.) women too.

And then it finally going to be a proper, total genocide of Ukrainians...

I am sure there are no red lines for Zelensky's regime now... He can start murdering kids, and it will be met with western applause...

[-] Name@feddit.nu -5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

That's one take. Recently a bigger focus has been on how these men are avoiding their duties as citizens to protect their country, way of living and freedom. But draft dodging is fine from a pacifist point of view.

Better that than being lured into a war as the Russians do.

Edited to way of living to help the literally ones

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 26 points 19 hours ago

bigger focus has been on how these men are avoiding their duties as citizens to protect their country, lives and freedom

How would they be protecting their lives by going into a war zone? And if their freedom was important they wouldn't be getting pressed into service; as for protecting their country, no one cared that they were shirking that responsibility when they allowed Azov militia members to kill ethnic Russians (who identified as Ukrainian until they were being ethnically cleansed) without defending that part of their country. Why weren't Ukrainians defending that part of the country?

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 34 points 20 hours ago

If you're not ready to protect life and freedom by getting blown up within a week of arriving at the front in an unwinnable war you're a bad person.

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