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submitted 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) by richardisaguy@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Hello Linux folks, i would like to share one little hack which i have found.

On fedora, zram-generator comes installed and configured by default with lz4 algorithm i believe, and no disk swap, if you have 8gb of ram or more, that is fine, but if you have 4gb or less, systemd-oomd either kills your games when they use too much memory, or you face an OOMD and get your system frozen.

When configuring fedora, normally i would create an in-disk swap, so that my computer wouldn't freeze but face a MASSIVE slowdown when on way too high memory usage, i also set zram-generator to use the zstd algorithm so that zram compression rate is higher but slightly slower, like that i can use my low memory more efficiently with a lower risk of OOMD.

I was watching a bringus studios video once, where he tried to run counter-strike 2 on a ps4 using linux and proton; the game would always use too much memory and that would freeze the system before it got a change to actually launch, the strange ps4 linux was using in-disk swap, and so, increasing swapiness to 100 bringus tried to leverage that to make the game run. He was successful. In disk swap is very slow, so the performance was crap, but that does not matter...

So i had the idea to combine it with zram-swap to avoid the in-disk swap penalty, also using zstd as the algorithm to make the most out of the memory, and it was a massive sucess! Some games which would make my system very unstable or straight up freeze on certain launch attempts started launching and working just fine! and without dumb in-disk swap slowdowns!

While running modded Victoria 2 i have noticed my system using about 3.3 to 3.4GB of swap, and about 3.5 gb of ram, so about 100 to 200MB of real uncompressed memory usage, assuming zstd is running at level 1 of compression, and achieving at least 3.0 as compression rate, in thesis, my system has now the equivalent to 10GB of ram, well above it's weight! even more impressive considering how low are the numbers we are working here!

tldr: setting your swapiness=100 while using zstd as your zram-generator compression algorithm, and no in-disk swap will help your system use the most out of your ram with negligible performance penalty

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[-] hellofriend@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Now this is gaming

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 hours ago

Wouldn't it be easier to just put 8gb of ram in the system?

[-] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 12 points 8 hours ago

Am I the only one that pronounces it swa-penis and giggles every single time?

[-] mactan@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 hours ago

archwiki tuning has a listing with swappiness set up to 180 (yes apparently the number can go over 100)

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Number is priority level, 100 is equal priority as real ram, over 100 is higher priority than real ram, less than 100 is less priority than real ram, and as far as I'm aware, max number is 200 and minimal number is 0

[-] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 33 points 12 hours ago

Not infinite ram. I'd say double ram, plus there is a noticable, but quick delay when switching to an application that was compressed by ram. But it's much, much faster than switching to an app that was swapped to disk.

Cachyos (arch based distro) does this hy default.

[-] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 37 points 12 hours ago

don't be silly, of course it's not infinite ram, the only way to get infinite ram is if you download it.

[-] gregor@gregtech.eu 5 points 12 hours ago

CachyOS mentioned! CachyOS btw

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

The improvement you are describing is the default out of the box experience on pop os

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

Any other distro really....except Ubuntu

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 12 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, with zram I was able to actually play Cities Skylines on my Steam Deck.

[-] kixik@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

Is it because Fedora doesn't enable zswap by default?

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Improving_performance#zram_or_zswap https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Zswap https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Zram

One down side of zram is that you won't be able to hibernate to swap, if that's a requirement. On consoles this might be totally irrelevant though.

[-] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

they do, but it uses the lz4 algorithm by default, which doesn't offer the highest compression rate, also the swapiness is not 100 by default.

[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago

Do you need a swappiness over 1 if you don't have another swap device?

[-] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

swapiness =/= priority, if your swapiness is at 1, the kernel is never going to use the device, if the number is high(like 100) every opportunity the kernel sees to put stuff in the swap, it is going to.

[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee 2 points 9 hours ago

Will it not use it even after the ram fills up? I wouldn't want the compressed part be prioritised anyways

[-] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

it won't let your ram fill up, i'm quite sure that when you get a high enough memory usage the kernel just starts dumping stuff into swap anyway

[-] lnxtx@feddit.nl 1 points 13 hours ago

[...] with negligible performance penalty

Which CPU do you have?

[-] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

11th Gen Intel Core i3-1115G4 @ 4x 4.1GHz according to screenfetch, in practice i get at most 3.9ghz on cold days, and 3.4 on the other ones; the cpu is running at 70°C on idle right now.

~~send help, global warming and the local corporations are turning my nice little city into an unbearable hell~~

edit: screenfetch doesn't seem to be accurate with temps, i'm getting 46°C at idle

[-] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 12 hours ago

Am I right to assume you've got a laptop? Otherwise 70C is a terrible temp to hit at idle

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