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13% of Democrats agree with Trump on that.

What the actual fuck?

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[-] lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 23 hours ago

Compare to George W. Bush, who said:

"We’re also a nation of immigrants, and we must uphold that tradition, which has strengthened our country in so many ways."

and:

"Some in this country argue that the solution is to — is to deport every illegal immigrant and that any proposal short of this amounts to amnesty. I disagree. It is neither wise nor realistic to round up millions of people, many with deep roots in the United States, and send them across the border."

and:

"We must honor the great American tradition of the melting pot, which has made us one nation out of many peoples. The success of our country depends upon helping newcomers assimilate into our society, and embrace our common identity as Americans."

Source

I'm not saying G.W. was good or anything, but god damn that's a big change from what we see now from Republicans.

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[-] archomrade@midwest.social 84 points 1 day ago

The US has a growing fascism problem

It does not go away with Trump. I wish democrats would address it instead of pointing at Trump like he's an aberration

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago

Fascism is the problem. Trump is a very notable symptom, but many others are also to blame for the fascism issue, including some democrats. I believe this fixation with Trump is due to people wanting simple answers to complex problems.

[-] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 5 points 19 hours ago

The symptom is on the brink of winning everything.

When you have a 42 °C fever, you focus on the fever before worrying about the infection. Dead people don't need antibiotics.

[-] brianary@startrek.website 8 points 1 day ago

The fixation is because there is no clear line of succession. If he fails, who steps in? They'll splinter and fragment. They'll still be deplorable, but less effective when not united behind a single authoritarian leader.

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[-] rsuri@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

13% of Democrats agree with Trump on that.

More proof of fake respondents. Basically some people, for whatever reason (depending on the poll it could be financial) just speed run the polls with no thought about what they're clicking on. So it makes any extremely unpopular view appear more supported. I can't find much about how this was done, if it was an online opt-in poll I'd be especially suspicious.

Edit: it seems this was done with a Ipsos KnowledgePanel, which as I suspected is an online, paid, opt-in panel. This is exactly the kind of design that's prone to speed running for cash.

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[-] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 107 points 1 day ago

Immigrants are the blood of the US. This fascist bullshit is the poison.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 68 points 1 day ago

That's funny because we're almost all immigrants, so I guess we're all poison?

Ehh, then again there was that whole native genocide thing.

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago

No, no, no, not us. I'm talking about those bad immigrants. You know who I'm talking about .....

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Someone get the family guy skin color chart

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[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 87 points 1 day ago

From the "Great American Melting Pot" to this shit in one generation. WTF

[-] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 70 points 1 day ago

If you think this is new, you haven't paid attention to history.

[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 day ago

This is the US. Mutt Nation. What the hell does "pure" or "poisoned" blood mean here?

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[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 17 hours ago

Something something and soil something something nazi

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

The Trump campaign doesn't hammer the immigration issue just because they're xenophobic racists. They also do it because it's one of the few issues that they can run hard on that rallies their base and has the potential to attract some democrats.

People that hate immigrants from either party consider it a central issue, so because it's so charged, there are actually a small subset of democrats that will hold their nose and vote for Trump because of this single issue.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Sooo…. A third of Americans have no problem admitting that the part of their brain that processes logic and reason is irreparably damaged.

[-] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

More like not developed. Though I suppose a bit of both.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

All you pale face non-natives gyit the fuuuck out!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

To be fair, a significant percentage of those non-natives didn't choose to be here in the first place.

Not the paleface ones, but...

[-] PortoPeople@lemm.ee 36 points 1 day ago

1/3 of Americans are terrible people.

[-] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 12 points 1 day ago

This is why GW Bush and Trump got elected. There is about 30% that will always vote for R.

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its the 100% venn overlap of racists. america is still pretty full up on people who hate other people for no reason but race

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[-] Jagothaciv@kbin.earth 10 points 1 day ago

After working construction for decades I can say that American workers are shit compared to foreigners. Muslim workers are the hardest. Especially from Ethiopia or Somalia. They learn fast too and are better in many cases than Mexican or SA workers. PLUS no drug or alcohol or daddy/mommy/religious issues.

When I was building in Africa we finished a project 3 days early. They didn’t even have the skills, we taught on site. That would NEVER happen with regular Americans.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Those are immigrants though. Have you ever seriously looked into the bullshit you need to go through to move to another country? It's insane.

Every immigrant is more impressive than any Olympian.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

Don't 30-40% of any given population support a strong man/fascist anyway?

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

Bet. So why don't all you palefaces go back to England, Ireland, Germany, Spain, France...

[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago

Please no. We already have 20-30% of people voting for fascists in Germany. We dont need more

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I heard Russia is accepting immigrants.

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[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

I mean, how many people supported slavery and later, Jim Crow.

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[-] JASN_DE@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

I think this is also a problem of perspective: the US Democrats are only "left" when seen from inside the US political spectrum. Seen from the outside they barely reach a center position and would be considered conservative-right in many other countries.

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[-] uberdroog@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

I was at a Ska show last night. They played a tRump ad about the border before the music. We almost left. Surreal, honestly, for the type of crowd I would expect.

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