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Something is wrong with this split-screen picture. On one side, former president Donald Trump rants about mass deportations and claims to have stopped "wars with France," after being described by his longest-serving White House chief of staff as a literal fascist. On the other side, commentators debate whether Vice President Kamala Harris performed well enough at a CNN town hall to "close the deal."

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Let’s review: First, Harris was criticized for not doing enough interviews — so she did multiple interviews, including with nontraditional media. She was criticized for not doing hostile interviews — so she went toe to toe with Bret Baier of Fox News. She was criticized as being comfortable only at scripted rallies — so she did unscripted events, such as the town hall on Wednesday. Along the way, she wiped the floor with Trump during their one televised debate.

Trump, meanwhile, stands before his MAGA crowds and spews nonstop lies, ominous threats, impossible promises and utter gibberish. His rhetoric is dismissed, or looked past, without first being interrogated.

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[-] auzy@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

She passed the bar exam and operated as a lawyer for years independently defending special assault victims and others victims. She never went bankrupt and has been successful

Trump boasted you need to be "quite" smart to win golf club championships during the debate with Biden, he went bankrupt multiple times and raped women. He can't even hang onto lawyers

Yet Republicans are now calling kamala incompetent

[-] 34dfg4g13@lemmings.world 14 points 20 hours ago

Well of course Kamala is incompetent to them, their goal is to destroy America and only Trump can deliver that.

[-] auzy@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

He doesn't even need to be president to do that. He's succeeding regardless.

So might as well vote kamala if that's the reason

[-] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 96 points 1 day ago

I'll take the downvotes, but a large part of this is because she's a woman. "One candidate (a man) can rant about gibberish while the other (a woman) has to be perfect." doesn't just apply to politics, this sounds like every office I've ever worked in.

[-] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago)

a large part of this is because she’s a woman.

the slogan I've seen on some shirts, "Good thing we are only looking for equality and not revenge" comes to mind.

[-] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 day ago

As a straight white man, I wouldn't mind wearing a shirt that says "Good thing they only want equality and not revenge" and let people guess who it is referring to.

[-] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

the slogan I’ve seen on some shirts, “good thing we are only looking for equality and not revenge” comes to mind.

Jesus Christ, I love that so much.

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[-] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 day ago

Is it too much to ask her to go on a 10 minute rant about someone she showered with had the best vagina and every single lady that showered with her spoke highly of how great her vagina is?

[-] CheeryLBottom@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

I had thought the same thing

[-] AshMan85@lemmy.world 201 points 1 day ago

because most major media supports trump.

[-] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 123 points 1 day ago

You mean the ones whos mega-rich owners are being promised massive tax cuts by trump? Those very same ones?

I'm shocked to my core. I'm glad I was sitting down when I read your comment.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

But but but there's no direct physical evidence of these major media owners handing giant round bags of cash with big dollar signs on them to trump personally while they twirl their moustaches!!!

Don't you see - we can't know if they support him or not!

/s obvs christ some people on here are russian trolls or steadfastly refuse to understand a goddamned thing

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

A lot of them aren't just in it for the tax cuts but because they like the ideology.

What if they disguised their sociopathic greed as ideology?

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[-] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

The truth is not better but there's some nuance. Major media do not usually care about being for or against fascism. They care about clicks, and following "journalistic ethics" that boil down to Enlightened Centrism™ and bothsidesism.

Their billionaire owners don't even have to interfere (most of the time). The system self-selects to make money through a shared set of beliefs in what constitutes "proper journalism". This makes journalists, as a profession, ontologically incapable of fighting against fascists. They truly, honestly, firmly believe that "Fascist about to win US Presidency" is not a statement of fact.

It's the same ideological pitfalls that makes Serious Media pit science against whichever anti-science fad is trendy right now. Vaccines, "climatic skepticism", etc. anything goes and the journalists in charge truly genuinely from their heart believe that is a fair and balanced approach.

Not to say there aren't actual conspiracies from time to time of course, but even actual independent traditional journalism has generally failed to accurately report on the rise of fascism.

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[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

And the few sources that may not be owned by Trump-backing Nazis still have to have their horse race. They want to make it seem close to get clicks and sell ads.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Trump is the best thing to happen for News Media since 9/11.

And they would do anything to have another 4 years of people obsessively watching/viewing/clicking all day every day to see what insane thing hes done to the country next.

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[-] graeghos_714@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago

One side expects their candidates to hold some standards, the other side doesn't care. It's like watching a sporting event with a homer who only sees the world based on how it effects their team winning or losing. Fairness doesn't come into play, the other side is always cheating and getting favored media exposure.

[-] themachine@lemm.ee 89 points 1 day ago

It’s obvious that there is a double standard but it’s too late to point it out.

Time is up.

If people are “undecided” they aren’t going to even consider media fairness or maybe even logic at this point.

It’s Donald Fuckin Trump. Rapist. Fascist. Liar. Cheat. Insert hundreds of other negatives and reasons why he should not have power and be in jail.

It’s voting time. That’s all that’s left. He won the media and the narrative enough to make it a race at all. Pointing it out now is fruitless - he got away with that shit for his purposes.

[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

It has been pointed out for as long as Trump is running against any candidate but it didn't change a thing. If anything, the double standard only got worse over the years.

[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I was hopeful when media figures started to ask themselves how to better cover Trump after 2016. NPR and On The Media had some decent journalism panels where they dug into the problems with obeying long-standing rules/norms to cover a candidate that weaponizes them. I saw a possibility for real reflection and maybe a significant course correction. That door slammed shut like 2 fucking years ago, and they've played EXACTLY the same game over this campaign. I knew we were fucked when a reporter came on after the Biden-Trump debate to say, essentially, "...and some of Trump's supporters have claimed, without evidence, that Joe Biden has died."

That's it. That was the end of her coverage. They can't even bring themselves to open their eyes long enough to observe unequivocally THAT THE PRESIDENT IS NOT DEAD. If the American experiment fails, a shitload of blame will lay at the feet of the media, who have long since abandoned their pursuit of "T"ruth in favor of the toxoplasma of rage.

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[-] GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 1 day ago

One side must bring peace to the middle east, the other side is allowed to tell Israel to kill Palestinians faster.

And before someone comes defending their stance not to vote for either genocidal enabler, why aren't you trying to save as many people as possible? Are you ok with more people dying because of your ideals? Enjoy living with that choice if he wins.

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 3 points 15 hours ago

It's not only about Palestine. Americans should now focus on the things they can actually change. Harris is the best candidate overall, because, well, her adversary is Donald F. Trump, but when it comes to Israel and Palestine both candidates are abysmal.

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[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

I had a thought about this; fascism exists because there are evil but effective ways of swaying people. By scapegoating immigrants and providing propaganda, he's doing exactly what other fascists have done (including Hitler) to great success.

It's like any other good vs evil things, the good guys always have extra hurdles to deal with, like a super hero who has to save civilians and can't just sucker punch the baddies. Too bad this is reality, and the good guys aren't guaranteed to win...

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

it also shows how complicit media is in fascism and how any law that would enforce factual reporting by bringing conduct before a jury to decide whether intentional lying occurred by a celebrity or media platform would undermine fascistic lies.

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[-] Gorillazrule@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 day ago

To me it seems like less of a double standard and more of a representation of the divide between Americans.

Trump gets plenty of criticism from all around. Including from the same people that are also criticizing Harris. But his voter base is in full support of the stuff he's spewing, and will believe anything he says wholesale. Even if it's crazy, or unsubstantiated, or demonstrable lies.

The people who make legitimate criticisms of Harris are not supportive of trump. But them criticizing Trump will not change Trump. He already has unwavering support from a large number of people. Why would he do anything to gain the support of someone who is willing to call him out on his bullshit and hold him to an actual standard? And it's not going to change the minds of any of his cult-like voters. However they do have hope that by criticizing Harris they might see her actually make changes towards becoming a candidate they wholesale fully support. Not a candidate that they are forced to choose because of the alternative. But a candidate that they actively want to be elected. These criticisms might also be persuasive to other Harris supporters and call them to be vocal and advocate for her to change as well.

So it's less of individuals having double standards and treating the candidates differently, but the two polar opposite standards that the voter bases have.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

Problem with that is, she's getting the pull from both sides, the far left and the disTrumpled right. She can't do enough of what either wants without losing the other, and she needs both to pull off a strong enough win to save democracy. So she's walking a tightthread while dodging spitballs.

Meanwhile Trump is splashing about in his pigsty, slinging mud and shit, which his people gleefully eat and smear all over.

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[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Don't forget the racism too!

[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 1 points 16 hours ago

I hope nobody tells Trump about Pol Pot,..

[-] esc27@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

"liberal media" outlets are either actually run by conservatives or so obsessed with trying to appear balanced, they end up downplaying Trump and highlighting Harris issues. Combine that with the pure propoganda from conservative media, and the whole industry has a strong conservative slant...

  • Real news: Trump praises Hitler
  • "liberal media": Trump praises WW2 leader, Harris eats pizza with a fork
  • Conservative media: FORK GATE 2024!!! Harris campaign in shambles!
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