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[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Make them pay people more.

[-] umbraroze@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Nah. ...Well, don't get me wrong, the rich absolutely should be taxed, sure, but that's a different debate.

We don't have a nationally mandated minimum wage in Finland. Because the unions set their own minimum wages (which they adjust frequently to market conditions) and the unions also have actual legitimate power.

Maybe they should try this stuff in America too. It's fucking awesome.

[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

And yet most forums will ban you even say the word "guillotine".

[-] Michal@programming.dev 12 points 7 hours ago

If there's a minimum wage, there should also be a maximum wage, but I may be a communist, idk.

[-] ugjka@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

The people in the meme aren't getting their wealth from their wages

[-] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Which is why this policy usually goes by maximum income or income cap

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Imo, nothing about what you just said is communist in nature, as we are defining terms for a continued labor market.

[-] Michal@programming.dev -3 points 7 hours ago

Individual's wealth vs minimum wage is not a great comparison. It's showing accumulated wealth of an individual who will over time receive pay raises and build up their wealth.

Minimum wage is what it says the minimum. It's supposed to be entry level income at the time. It should be adjusted for inflation.

To make it more accurate, it should show income increase for ech of the billionaires, and compare it to an income of some median individuals.

[-] ben_dover@lemmy.world 22 points 21 hours ago

eat the rich, they taste like pork

[-] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 minutes ago

I doubt they taste that good, but I guess we would need to try to know for sure.

[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago

Minimum wage shouldn’t ever be a specific amount, it should be a percentage tied to some other economic metric, so that as inflation or cost of living rises, wages increase with it as well. This BS of having to wait for out-of-touch millionaire Congress members to approve of minimum wage increases is ridiculous.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Meanwhile, Congress has raised their own pay multiple times since they raised the minimum wage back in 2009.

Actually, looking into it, it seems that they gave themselves an automatic annual pay raise back in the ethics reforms act of 1989! Fucking assholes.

https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/97-615.html

"The automatic annual adjustment for Members of Congress is determined by a formula using a component of the Employment Cost Index (ECI),......"

".....This adjustment formula was established by the Ethics Reform Act of 1989."

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In Europe we call this wage indexation, you should try it!

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Don't worry, we won't.

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[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago

If you see these numbers and still think tax is the solution, you're not paying enough attention.

A system is what it does. Our system created this disparity, and will continue to allow it to grow as long as it exists. Any solutions within the acceptable limits said system has set out will never stop it, only placate the masses enough to stop us from tearing it down.

[-] absentbird@lemm.ee 35 points 23 hours ago

You don't have to go that far back to find a time when the rich were heavily taxed and income disparity was much smaller. Keep going back and you can find other times when the disparity was greater and the rich were taxed less.

The best outcome may require the system to be torn down, but it's clearly also possible to tax the rich significantly more even with the system already in place.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 18 points 22 hours ago

Exactly. Post WWII the tax on the richest was 90%, it stayed there until the mid 60s when it was lowered to 70% and then in the early 80s Reagan and that congress lowered it to 50%, then briefly to even below 30%.

It probably wouldn't have happened without the combined effect of the Great Depression rolling directly into WWII. With those two events, it was possible to raise taxes that high, and the rich actually (to a large extent) paid them.

Even though the "Again" part of MAGA is very ill-defined, I think a lot of MAGA supporters would point to the post WWII era as a time that America was great. A greater shared prosperity was probably a significant reason why things felt so great then. Unions were strong, rich people were heavily taxed, and everyone was better off.

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[-] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 27 points 1 day ago

Better yet, end all taxes on individuals. Instead, all taxes should be levied against corporations, and they should cover the entire bill for a functioning society... And society should democratically decide what that entails. Tax the corporations so much that their stock prices fall back to realistic numbers. Then we won't have any of these fake billionaires who's "wealth is tied up in stocks", but also they can get loans against them. It should be very easy to get "rich" by working yourself, it should be very hard to get rich "letting your money work for you"

[-] EmilyIsTrans@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 day ago

Maybe a hot take, but I actually think individual progressive taxes are great. Have a generous tax free threshold, but individual taxes stops excessive wealth hoarding and (in the case of inheritance tax) dynasties

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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago

Kamala Harris promises to tax the top 1%

Donald Trump promises to tax the bottom 50%

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[-] NutWrench@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

At this rate, we're going to have our first trillionaire by the end of the decade. How much is enough? How big does that pile of money need to be?

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[-] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 109 points 1 day ago

The US minimum wage hasn't changed in TEN YEARS?! You guys need to revolt, that is awful.

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[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Eat the Rich,

Eat the Rich,

Don't you know,

Life is a Bitch!

Eat the Rich,

Eat the Rich,

Out of the palace,

And into the ditch!

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