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[-] ganymede@lemmy.ml 41 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

personally i don't agree with sanctioning foss communities.

but fuckit, bring on more forks i say.

among other benefits, the scifi-type scenario of nations trying to patch eachothers backdoors and slip in new backdoors (and hopefully innovations). could make for an exciting OS space-race type scenario

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 0 points 4 weeks ago

personally i don't agree with sanctioning foss communities.

Foss communities aren't being sanctioned. Whole countries are. It's the same limitation whatever enterprise you're in.

If Olympians have to renounce their country to take part in global competition, why do you not think a software developer wouldn't have to do the same to be involved in a global project?

[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 14 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Do you think it's acceptable to make olympicians first bow to the west before they can take part in games?

Should Isn'traelis first denounce the genocide before being able to contribute to the linux kernel or take part in olympic games?

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 4 weeks ago

Not the west. The global community.

...and should Israel be under sanctions? Absolutely.

[-] scorp@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 weeks ago
[-] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 weeks ago

Thats the entire world!

[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

7.8 / Too Much Water.

~~(trumpets soundfont when?)~~

[-] legionguy@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

add india lil bro

[-] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Lol global community

It will do what the US says or else it gets the hose again

[-] ganymede@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

this is a complex topic and probably belongs in a different thread.

essentially i don't personally believe in punishing citizens of a country for the actions of its politicians.

at best its misguided, at worse it basically empowers politicians on both sides who draw power from friction between citizens of different nations. typical divide and conquer bs.

why do you not think a software developer wouldn’t have to

wouldn't or shouldn't? if you mean wouldn't, it's not surprising and its not the dev's fault they have to comply with policy, so the criticism is not with them.

if you mean shouldn't, i don't agree with punishing athletes either, but regarding foss specifically, isn't the "friendly competition" of olympics equivalent to that? sort of. in some ways yes. in other ways its actually the opposite.

collaboration is actually the opposite of competition.

and while there's a case for the benefits of healthy sports competition, i don't believe it truly fulfills the spirit of international goodwill to the degree it says on the packaging. foss and other forms of international collaboration for the betterment of greater society are definitely on a higher rung - in my opinion at least.

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 weeks ago

Probably better for BRICS countries to consider contributing to something different.

Realistically there's no feasible way for the US to block access to use the kernel, and even a soft fork of it will be laughably easy for glowies to exploit. There are a bunch of promising kernels that could be well suited for China and Russia's push towards RISC and ARM independence, whereas in Linux they'd be tasked with maintaining drivers and other systems that are a massive security vulnerability if you don't have total control over them.

I'd honestly even consider it a good idea for Russia to get the FSF to fight this considering it's a blatant violation of the GPL. Even if the president can just say whatever they like, at least you can make it embarrassing and expensive for the chauvinists gloating at the labour they exploited for years.

[-] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 13 points 4 weeks ago

I'd honestly even consider it a good idea for Russia to get the FSF to fight this considering it's a blatant violation of the GPL.

How is telling someone that you won’t accept their contributions anymore a violation of the GPL?

[-] evanstucker@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 weeks ago

Please don't...

Can we organize and force the Linux Foundation and/or OFAC to exclude open source software from these sanctions? Is anyone doing that yet?

[-] korbel@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 weeks ago

What would be the point of the sanctions then? If the Linux Foundation were against it they could move the infrastructure to an other jurisdiction which does not sanctize countries, that would carry a strong message. But if they refuse to do that, what's wrong with others' forking it and doing it? That's the point of opensource.

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[-] 0x0@programming.dev 13 points 4 weeks ago

It'll be called BRICS Linux.

[-] scratchandgame@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

its quality will not be lower than usa linux, as they will pull latest development but not push back (to the linux list)

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