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The new law permits pedestrians to cross a roadway at any point, including outside of a crosswalk. It also allows for crossing against traffic signals and specifically states that doing so is no longer a violation of the city’s administrative code. But the new law also warns that pedestrians crossing outside of a crosswalk do not have the right of way and that they should yield to other traffic that has the right of way.

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

This is how Illinois has been for ages. The legal penalties for hitting a pedestrian are higher to compensate. And if you hit a construction worker you'd best hope you're rich, because that's a big-ass $10k fine on top of 10 years.

[-] aceshigh@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago

… it was illegal? No one has received a ticket for jaywalking in nyc.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Are there ever any tickets for any sort of traffic violation of any sort in nyc?

[-] Joeffect@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Turning right on red apparently

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

I drive a delivery truck though nyc one day a week. I have unadulterated rage for the single passenger suvs that sit in the middle of intersections, causing gridlock cause they think they'll miss something by waiting their turn.

[-] modus@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

Adam Ruins Everything had an episode about jaywalking and how it became a crime.

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago

No white people maybe.

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 64 points 1 day ago

How does one "legalize" walking? Jaywalking is an absurd concept to begin with.

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Step 2. bring cars to the market before proper regulations were a thing
Step 3. aggressively lobby and market that it's the walkers fault for getting driven over
Step 4. actually win over public opinion somehow

[-] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago

Racism. The Jays in jaywalking where probably immigrants with weird hats.

[-] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

There are plenty of places you're not allowed to walk for your own safety and the safety of others. It's not a crazy concept, although I do think that jaywalking should be legal

[-] model_tar_gz@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

“Right to Travel” == right to walk on and across an interstate freeway where 5000 lb death missiles are hurtling past me at 90 mi/hr.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago

Airports are so annoyingly difficult to walk around.

I prefer walking straight through, personally.

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Step 1: be American

[-] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 71 points 1 day ago

"Jaywalking" being a crime is such a fundamentally brainrot thing

The law here in Brazil, not that anyone follows it, but it basically follows the logic of "the smaller you are, the more of a right of way you have". I.e. theoretically, a car should ALWAYS stop or slow itself to save a pedestrian or cyclist or even a motorcyclist

.... Again, not that anyone follows it, but it IS on the paper.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago

That's the same logic in the US. Except everyone yields to animals, because you can't tell a horse or a mule not to trample that person who walks next to them

[-] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

It would be nice if this was followed but the reality of the world is the opposite. It's right of weight, not right of way.

[-] merde@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

the term used here is "vulnerable". Vulnerability gives you priority

[-] frank@sopuli.xyz 39 points 1 day ago

Good, especially since the law just targets POC.

If car traffic became 50% worse to make walking traffic 5% better, that's a win for humans in the city. It'll help convince more people to use non-car methods of transportation and that helps spark people to vote for and invest in more non-car infrastructure.

Ditching cars in populated cities isn't a magic law or anything, it's a slow incremental burn; legalizing pedestrians walking strictly helps that

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago

Everything we do to make car travel worse (except for ambulances and disabled folks) is a win

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[-] TheRealCharlesEames@lemm.ee 121 points 1 day ago

Insane it was ever made illegal.

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[-] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 day ago

They were also fans of using it against left-wing protestors while ignoring the right doing it, particularly in the case of anti-genocide protests. I assume they will just find something new to pick people off in the crowd now.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago

Is disturbing the peace still a thing for them?

[-] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 12 hours ago

Yes.

In England and Wales where I am based, there is a really useful website that has information on laws that police like to use for protests: https://greenandblackcross.org/guides/laws/. Its a bit of a shame that the National Lawyers Guild doesn't also provide public resources on laws for the US states that they operate in in a similar way.

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In 28 years living in New York, the vast majority of my crossing the street is done between the blocks. Some of them are very long.

And New Yorkers cross the street like we own it because we know that anyone who hits us is gonna get their ass sued off and have to pay out ridiculous amounts of money.

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