This is how Illinois has been for ages. The legal penalties for hitting a pedestrian are higher to compensate. And if you hit a construction worker you'd best hope you're rich, because that's a big-ass $10k fine on top of 10 years.
… it was illegal? No one has received a ticket for jaywalking in nyc.
Are there ever any tickets for any sort of traffic violation of any sort in nyc?
Turning right on red apparently
I drive a delivery truck though nyc one day a week. I have unadulterated rage for the single passenger suvs that sit in the middle of intersections, causing gridlock cause they think they'll miss something by waiting their turn.
Adam Ruins Everything had an episode about jaywalking and how it became a crime.
No white people maybe.
How does one "legalize" walking? Jaywalking is an absurd concept to begin with.
Step 2. bring cars to the market before proper regulations were a thing
Step 3. aggressively lobby and market that it's the walkers fault for getting driven over
Step 4. actually win over public opinion somehow
Racism. The Jays in jaywalking where probably immigrants with weird hats.
There are plenty of places you're not allowed to walk for your own safety and the safety of others. It's not a crazy concept, although I do think that jaywalking should be legal
“Right to Travel” == right to walk on and across an interstate freeway where 5000 lb death missiles are hurtling past me at 90 mi/hr.
Airports are so annoyingly difficult to walk around.
I prefer walking straight through, personally.
Step 1: be American
"Jaywalking" being a crime is such a fundamentally brainrot thing
The law here in Brazil, not that anyone follows it, but it basically follows the logic of "the smaller you are, the more of a right of way you have". I.e. theoretically, a car should ALWAYS stop or slow itself to save a pedestrian or cyclist or even a motorcyclist
.... Again, not that anyone follows it, but it IS on the paper.
That's the same logic in the US. Except everyone yields to animals, because you can't tell a horse or a mule not to trample that person who walks next to them
It would be nice if this was followed but the reality of the world is the opposite. It's right of weight, not right of way.
the term used here is "vulnerable". Vulnerability gives you priority
Good, especially since the law just targets POC.
If car traffic became 50% worse to make walking traffic 5% better, that's a win for humans in the city. It'll help convince more people to use non-car methods of transportation and that helps spark people to vote for and invest in more non-car infrastructure.
Ditching cars in populated cities isn't a magic law or anything, it's a slow incremental burn; legalizing pedestrians walking strictly helps that
Everything we do to make car travel worse (except for ambulances and disabled folks) is a win
They were also fans of using it against left-wing protestors while ignoring the right doing it, particularly in the case of anti-genocide protests. I assume they will just find something new to pick people off in the crowd now.
Is disturbing the peace still a thing for them?
Yes.
In England and Wales where I am based, there is a really useful website that has information on laws that police like to use for protests: https://greenandblackcross.org/guides/laws/. Its a bit of a shame that the National Lawyers Guild doesn't also provide public resources on laws for the US states that they operate in in a similar way.
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