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[-] treefrog@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I tend to think of most people as being alienated by capitalism because of their jobs. Endlessly fed propaganda and given treats to keep them placated and docile.

We're animals after all. So I don't think of them as shitty people but I instead look for compassion.

That said, unless I'm working for a small business owner I tend to absolutely feel alienated at work and it's crushing. I also have health issues that make work difficult so my relationship with it is extra alienating I suppose.

I guess what I'm trying to tell you is look at your boss as maybe the source of that feeling rather than your fellow working-class people.

Edit: I also live in a working class city, with strong socialist roots. So my view is pretty biased I suppose. In the sense that I'm not living in the middle of a conservative place surrounded by people with vastly different views than myself.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I work in a conservative hellhole. I still try to treat my coworkers right, because of my socialist ethics but it can be hard when they go on conservative rants in front of my openly queer self

[-] dan1101@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago

Sort of sometimes, but everybody gotta eat and everyone needs to do their part or we will be back to hunting and farming.

[-] future_quadrillionaire@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Your premise sort of resembles the plot of Ayn Rand's novel Atlas Shrugged, but she thought the people who made the world work were all CEOs and captains of industry so she made them all heroes. Because of numerous socialistic policies by the government they all go on strike and withhold their "genius" from the world until it falls apart.

So, like if the mythological Atlas (who supports and holds up the world) shrugged his responsibility and walked away from the world, the world falls.

Obviously, as we all witnessed during the COVID pandemic some of the lowest paid people in society are actually the essential workers. So, Rand had it wrong...but her idea of going on a strike to watch the world fall apart is right, it's just that she selected the wrong group of people.

[-] sOlitude24k@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 2 weeks ago

Meh. Work isn't for fulfillment. Work is just there so I can eat, pay bills, and fund my hobbies.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

It's more that society should have asked nicely instead of trying to manipulate me into it with years of brainwashing and coercive economics, so I made it a priority to participate as little as possible and that's on them. Want a functional system, treat people with respect.

[-] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Shovel 14 tons what do ya get? Another day older and deeper in debt. St. Peter don't you call cuz I anit home. I owe my soul to the company store.

Work has too many variables that make it shitty to think the grass is greener just by changing the location you work in. I've switched industries drastically a couple times and returned to some and feel strongly that people of the similar flock together. So even if you changed the people you work for or with by mowing towns, but dont change careers, it's likely your next job will have the same personality types as the people you currently hate working for.

Shovel 14 tons what do ya get?

It's 16 tons but we all knew what you meant. I agree.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteen_Tons

[-] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

🤣 been a while since I've heard the song.

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

100%, every day.

[-] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I usually felt this way about the Christian families with lots of children who would come into the restaurant after church and treat everyone rudely and make a huge mess. They did it every Sunday, and it never changed over a period of years. I know they were probably just exhausted and miserable themselves, but lots of exhausted and miserable people out there aren't so entitled, inconsiderate, and rude to workers. Still, it didn't make me feel like not working, I just didn't want to serve those people.

[-] aoidenpa@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yes but the people you work for probably feel like that too.

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

My work barely overlaps with peoples' attitudes, but I wouldn't say I don't have my own reaction to this observation.

[-] pedz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah pretty often. It goes even further, as in, I don't want to participate in society, or forced capitalism, in general. I'm aware I'm part of it but I always tried to not be a part of that shitty system. I'm not buying a house, no car, no gas to buy, no superior education, no certifications or high paying job. I just wasted my "potential" and will continue to do so.

To me it looks like a big chuck of people have some sort of Stockholm syndrome towards capitalism and how our society makes us think this is some sort of meritocracy.

That being said, my behaviour can also be linked to my spicy brain. I'm probably neurodivergent but the health system where I live doesn't help adults with that.

In short, I'm disappointed by what I see around me and I don't want to join the game. I don't want to join the competition of poors against poors

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Does anyone not?

this post was submitted on 04 Nov 2024
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