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MSNBC host to JD Vance: ‘You just effed up’ calling Harris ‘trash’ (www.thedailybeast.com)

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Summary

Republican vice-presidential candidate J.D. Vance faced intense backlash after calling Vice President Kamala Harris “trash” during a rally in Atlanta, a comment that MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace described as a major misstep.

Wallace and other commentators noted that such rhetoric, following Vance’s past controversial remarks about “childless cat ladies,” could alienate female voters—a demographic the Republican ticket already struggles with.

The “trash” comment is part of a broader trend among Trump’s supporters, who have recently used “garbage” imagery in their rhetoric.

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[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 158 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Not really. Only the Democrats, who always have to be absolutely fucking perfect at all times, to get in trouble for such a benign comment. The Trump team have been literally goose-stepping around the country for the last year, and they have felt absolutely zero consequences for it.

None of the shit-for-brains neo-Nazis voting for Trump are going to suddenly say, “hold on, wait, this crosses the line!”

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago

This is about undecideds. Nobody in their right mind is trying to court neo-Nazis to vote for Kamala.

[-] justhach@lemmy.world 72 points 2 weeks ago

If someone is undecided at this point, they're either disingenuous and embarrassed about their support for Trump, or they're a moron.

[-] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 23 points 2 weeks ago

you're right, but there sure seems to be a lot of morons in the electorate, so...

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Nobody ever failed because they overestimated the number of morons in America.

[-] jrbaconcheese@yall.theatl.social 8 points 2 weeks ago

I think George Carlin said it, and I’m paraphrasing poorly:

Think about how dumb the average person you know is, then remember half of people as dumber

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

They certainly as

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

Putin seems to be leading the race to disprove that hypothesis...

[-] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 19 points 2 weeks ago

You have to remember these are just simple farmers.
These are people of the land.
The common clay of the new west.
You know....
Morons

[-] BassTurd@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Sheriff murdered, crops burned, stores looted, people stampeded...and cattle raped.

Now the time has come to act...and act fast.

I'm leaving.

[-] Okokimup@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

A moron's vote for Harris counts the same a genious' vote for Harris.

[-] moody@lemmings.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

There are a lot of morons out there. And some actually might be swayed one way or the other.

[-] neanderthal@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I had a random conversation today with someone that knew absolutely nothing about politics and wasn't sure about voting. I would guarantee you that if Harris herself talked to this person they would go vote for her.

Here we have some serious selection bias. Not necessarily right vs left, but interested enough to be commenting about it on the fediverse.

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Exactly, just look at the results. Trump has done so many despicable things, and has said so many horrible things, yet it doesn’t matter for them.

But on the Dem side, if a candidate is not X or Y enough, then part of the voter base stays at home whining, to punish their party - though at the end they only end up punishing themselves.

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 41 points 2 weeks ago

The votes are coming in right now. They've BEEN coming in for over a week. The people going to vote today are not going to hear about this story before they go vote. The people who hear about this story are not going to listen. Where was all this "you just effed up" rhetoric weeks ago, months ago, YEARS ago WHEN THESE CHUCKLE-FUCKS ALREADY DONE BEEN FUCKING UP???

I'm glad you got your headline, but fuck you all for pretending like Trump and Vance had any qualities or qualifications to occupy the Whitehouse. Even if Harris wins, if it's by anything less than a 25 point lead, then our country is still fucked from all the people who have been given the room to believe that Trump was ever an option.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 weeks ago

I get your point, but the folks at MSNBC have been consistently more critical of Trump than the other networks.

And you're not wrong that the USA is fucked for even entertaining the idea of Trump, but you'll be waiting a long time if you're sitting around hoping people become less dumb, selfish and would cut off their nose to spite their face. Try not to lose sleep over it, but at the same time if you were able to get even one person who was Trump supporting, undecided or uninterested to vote for Harris that is a positive thing.

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

You're right that they've been more critical, but the bar was set very very low...

[-] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

but you'll be waiting a long time if you're sitting around hoping people become less dumb, selfish and would cut off their nose to spite their face

This wouldn't even be a problem if Republican leadership hadn't been laser-focused on destroying the American public education system for decades. Americans as a group are stupid, and it's on purpose, engineered by Republicans.

[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago

“Oh, oh, oh, J.D. Vance. You just effed up in a way that I’ve never seen in my political life, and I worked for Sarah Palin,”

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago

I'll never understand the personal insults/attacks, ever. That just tells me one thing, you have 0 arguments and 0 policies.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The moment someone goes ad hominem, they lose all credibility with their educated interlocutors. Sadly the base just likes the angry screeds.

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

interlocutors

I've learned a new word today. Thank you.

Ad hominem

The word I always forget. lol.
English is my second language, btw, that's why I'm saying all this.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I did a good thing today. :)

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

You absolutely did. High five✋🏽

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

These are the comments that get people worked up?

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

Vance’s screwed up a lot recently.

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