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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by HorseRabbit@lemmy.sdf.org to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

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The majority of Americans who voted, at least in the swing states, have voted for the republicans. Why? Do the republican policies reflect popular opinion? Or is it that their vibes are more aligned with the public? Or maybe people are worse off now than they were 4 years ago and are hoping to turn back time? As a non-american I don't quite get it. People must think their lives will materially improve under the republicans, but why?

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[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago

Same as it always was, the answer is material interests

[-] ItalianMessiah@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago

All good points but something that I don't see talked about more is how many Reps voted Early/Absentee this election. In 2020, early voting was 44% Dem with 30% Rep . In 2024, the percentages were almost dead even. I think Democrats saw the early voting results and wrongly assumed that they'd overwhelming go Dem because they did in the past. Because of this, Democrats were expecting a blue surge at the end to help balance out red votes early in the night. This did not materialize.

Other than that, it's a million small things that any competent campaign could've avoided. Don't alienate the Muslim community, hammer actual policy positions in your questions, have an actual primary instead of a rigged process, etc etc.

[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago

When you run on the status quo, and the status quo sucks, people are gonna turn to whoever manages to present themselves as an alternative.

When you run to the right on stuff like immigration and the military, and the people who like right-wing policies already have a party waiting on them hand-and-foot, they're not gonna switch over to you, and you're just going to alienate the parts of your base/coalition that are affected by those policies.

People are gonna blame the left or say it's because she's a woman of color. But Tammy Baldwin, a queer woman, looks set to win Wisconsin, and Elissa Slotkin is ahead by a hair in Michigan, so that narrative is dead in the water.

[-] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago

SQUIRREL

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago

It’s the economy. Everyone thinks the president has the power to fix the economic agenda.

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[-] Blockocheese@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

At least in PA, a more important swing state, people are so fucking racist and xenophobic, think trump will save them money, and are still annoyed there were minor precautions against covid

Some voted third party or not at all because of the genocide but I don't think that alone is enough to explain why he won

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

Because left-of-center people -- not even "leftists" mind you, just people who broadly want to Improve Society Somewhat -- were told loud and clear by the Harris campaign that their support wasn't needed, so they stayed home. It's still too early to show this definitively, but I believe the final results will bear this out.

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago

They are worse off, but idk how it interacts with who votes (it’s older or richer people usually)

[-] HorseRabbit@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 3 weeks ago

So are you saying the 40+% that didn't vote might skew away from the republicans? Like the vote might not have been representative of general opinion?

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

well yes, the polls sample likely voters (and they do vote), but full economic view of america has two bottom quintiles (40 percent poorest), basically being completely stuck on wage front (noticeable percentage of them are on social security and thus old, and maybe voting), so there is some unknown sea of non-voters, who don’t vote for god knows what reason (cynical, log cabin type guys, disillusioned over shenanigans by some candidate and swearing off of voting, not having time to vote working three jobs). From what I remember last time, there is consistent underrepresentations of people making less than 15 k, or some shit (that’s 20% of people roughly)

Maximal cynical take is top 20 percent got mad over taxes, with billionaires ready to execute khan lady, and then 40-80 voted their heart.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

As a non-american I don't quite get it. People must think their lives will materially improve under the republicans, but why?

the american people are unintellectual. we laugh at trump's conception of tariffs but his silly economic rhetoric and proposed policies sound good and correct to a lot of fools.