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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

The after-action analysis that the world will be doing will suggest what proportion of the blame goes to whom, but make no mistake - this is nothing but a loss for everyone on the left. "Electoralism can't fix our problems!" you cry. Ignoring electoral politics can sure as fuck make it worse.

The deaths in Gaza and Ukraine which could have been avoidable if Trump hadn't been returned to power? That blood is on the hands of those who wanted to keep 'clean'.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That blood is on the hands of those who wanted to keep 'clean'.

You're already doing it. You're already instinctively blaming people in a moment when it's impossible to know whether they would've made a difference.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Oh no, that they "wouldn't have made a difference" doesn't absolve them, no more than it absolves twats in deep red states for voting Trump, despite their vote "not making a difference" in whether their state went red.

They have blood on their hands, regardless of whether they were the tipping point. Enjoy it.

[-] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 1 points 2 months ago

We all have blood on our hands, we are all part of this machine against our own will. Moralism will get you nowhere

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

So make sure it's as much blood as possible, huh?

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Millions of people didn't vote across several swing states.

It has been widely discussed that certain purity test failures by Harris kept voters home.

Purity politics is not the only thing on the table, but it's certainly one of them. It's not all leftist's fault. At all.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago

I heard it was mostly white suburban men who didn't show up to vote. Not really a big leftist demographic.

[-] Sami@lemmy.zip -3 points 2 months ago

The blood is on your hands and anyone who made excuses for the Democratic party instead of demands for an entire year. Make no mistake.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Cool, where did making 'demands' get you?

Oh, it worsened the very genocide you thought you were going to help alleviate?

Curious.

[-] Sami@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 months ago

I'm not American. My family is at risk of being bombed by your country. The party you've avoided holding to account due to fear of a Trump victory is the one facilitating the bombing. It should have never gotten to this point but every time someone like you would say "but Trump is worse" to justify supporting the Democratic party NO MATTER WHAT it emboldened them to make the non-permissible permissible.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I’m not American. My family is at risk of being bombed by your country.

I guess since neither candidate is going to stop the problem, it's okay to make it as bad as possible. You know, to 'punish' the Democrats.

[-] Sami@lemmy.zip -5 points 2 months ago

Go find your scapegoat and avoid self-reflection until next election cycle then.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

It's no question of scapegoats. There are a lot of factors, and many of them are likely more important than people playing purity politics. Yet people playing purity politics are very much one of the factors, and the fact that your only response to "We were dealing with limited choices with an electorate that cares very little about foreign affairs" is "I see you're trying to avoid self-reflection" is very telling.

until next election cycle then.

What next election cycle?

[-] Clent@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Your risk is being bombed went up and you're gloating. That's precious.

[-] Sami@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago

Do you think I'm happy that Trump won or something? Good to see that the fake concern is gone now as Americans blame the very same people they are bombing for their own willingness to sacrifice them for the what they perceive to be the greater good.

[-] intelisense@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Your campaign against Harris only helped Trump. I'm not sure what is hard to understand here. I hope you keep safe, but this is an outcome you literally fought for.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net -1 points 2 months ago

You're literally in the meme, claiming shit you can't know.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

What fake concern? You are in increased danger now, and I voted to try to avoid it.

[-] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 months ago

By participating in this election, Americans could have stopped the rise of fascism for four more years by filling out a piece of paper with a pen.

[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

For over half the voters, the open rise of fascism was fine and not a deal-breaker. Trump has made no secret what kind of a president he was going to be. Trump’s numbers stayed the same and even did better in some places, even after running the most garbage campaign in modern history. A sizable portion of Americans want fascism.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Too much to ask. They didn't feel like we 'deserved' to avoid fascism. They couldn't possible 'reward' non-fascists by voting against fascism.

[-] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 months ago

The accelerationism was fucking awful. =(

You tried everything to reach those people. I appreciate you.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So are you pushing toward that IRL or are you just like another leftist bitching on the internet on how perfect your plan are and how right your ideal are and it's all libtard fault that Trump won?

Wait are you blaming people while complaining they're blaming others? What is this blame-ception

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Both can be true. No contradiction.

[-] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Not too soon for Liberals. They're already on the attack.

[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I mean, this wasn't the friendliest opening statement and I don't blame anyone for being in a bad mood to begin with this morning

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Plus many of us have been arguing for harm reduction voting for months.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 2 months ago

Could someone elaborate by what dual power means in this context?

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 months ago

Trade unions, mutual aid groups, tenant unions, free clinics, etc.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 6 points 2 months ago

Ahh. It ain't trickling down for sure. I'm afraid union busting is going to be back on the menu.

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