Arab American Voters in Dearborn, Michigan, Heard Trump’s Case (www.nytimes.com)

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Ameen Almudhari was one of thousands of people in the majority-Arab community of Dearborn, Mich., who helped Joe Biden win the city and defeat Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election.

Four years later, Mr. Almudhari had had enough.

This week, he joined thousands of other Dearborn residents in voting for Mr. Trump, helping him score a stunning win in a place that seemed an unlikely source of support in the former president’s bid to return to the White House.

Standing next to his 10-year-old son outside an elementary school on the north side of Dearborn on Tuesday evening, Mr. Almudhari, 33, explained his change of heart, part of a remarkable turnabout in Dearborn, which is just outside Detroit.

He was, he said, fed up with Mr. Biden’s support of Israel and Ukraine and said the death and destruction being underwritten by the United States drove his decision to back Mr. Trump.

“The first time we vote for Joe Biden, but what we see right now, he didn’t stop the genocide in Gaza,” said Mr. Almudhari, a Yemeni American, who faulted the president for spending American money to support the wars in Gaza and Ukraine.

His son, Khaled, interrupted him with a smiling comment: “Trump will end the war!”

Indeed, Mr. Trump has said as much, and the promise was among a host of reasons cited by voters in Dearborn for the wave of support from Arab and Muslim Americans for Mr. Trump.

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[-] ptz@dubvee.org 52 points 1 week ago

His son, Khaled, interrupted him with a smiling comment: “Trump will end the war!”

Yeah, probably. But based on his "finish what they started" statement, I don't think it's going to end the way you have in mind.

You've been conned. Now we all have to pay for it.

Thanks!

[-] vetehinen@lethallava.land 31 points 1 week ago

Yeah no... Voting Trump in the hopes of him being better on Gaza than Harris would have been is absolutely delusional.

Trump played a part in causing October 7th by not involving Palestinians in any discussions and moving the US Embassy to East Jerusalem. The Great march of return riots occurred directly as a consequence of his actions. He has not said anything good when it comes to Gaza and his support for Israel was always unwavering.

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[-] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Harris: "I support Israel."

Arab-Americans: "We cannot support you because you support genocide."

Trump: "I'll genocide harder. And I'll throw your asses out of here while I'm at it!"

Arab-Americans: "That's our guy!"

Good job, guys. Let me know how that works out for you.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

His son, Khaled, interrupted him with a smiling comment: “Trump will end the war!”

Yeah son, he's going to end the war alright just hope you like how he's going to help end it.

https://www.reuters.com/world/netanyahu-denies-report-he-spoke-trump-about-gaza-talks-2024-08-15/

In an event later on Thursday about tackling antisemitism, Trump criticized Biden and Harris' months-long calls for a ceasefire in Gaza.

"From the start, Harris has worked to tie Israel's hand behind its back, demanding an immediate ceasefire, always demanding ceasefire," Trump said, adding it "would only give Hamas time to regroup and launch a new October 7 style attack."

Trump added: "I will give Israel the support that it needs to win but I do want them to win fast."

In the same event, Trump also labelled pro-Palestinian supporters calling for an end to U.S. support for Israel's war as "pro-Hamas thugs" and "jihad sympathizers." He threatened to arrest and deport them from the U.S. if he became president.

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 week ago

I want to see the look on every single one of these people's faces when Trump gives Israel absolutely everything they want.

I have no respect for people who do not show the slightest propensity for critical thinking.

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

“The first time we vote for Joe Biden, but what we see right now, he didn’t stop the genocide in Gaza,” said Mr. Almudhari, a Yemeni American, who faulted the president for spending American money to support the wars in Gaza and Ukraine.

First part makes sense. Second part is absolutely batshit crazy. Not supporting the genocide by.... supporting it even harder. Okay bruh you paid for the tickets now enjoy the show.

[+] WoodScientist@lemmy.world -7 points 1 week ago

OTOH, I can see it from the other perspective.

I voted for Kamala, but I also recognize that NOT VOTING for Kamala is probably the fastest way to get any change in US Israel policy.

If Kamala won, nothing was going to change in Gaza. The current slow genocide would continue unabated with full US financial support.

Trump won. There is now a chance that the genocide will accelerate. However, there are strong reasons to believe this will not be the case. Israel has always had to balance its genocidal territorial ambitions with global public opinion. Trump will not stop Netanyahu from bulldozing the West Bank, but the threat of embargo from every nation in Europe might. Israel can only go far without risking its existentially necessary trade links. As nice as US aid is to have, this broader international trade is Israel's real life-blood.

So while there is a chance of acceleration, the chance is not particularly large. In reality, the ultimate outcome of Trump and Harris administrations is likely identical in terms of Gaza.

On the other hand, a Kamala loss does present the one narrow window for possible change on US Israeli policy. Kamala chose Israel over winning the election. She gave up her presidency for Netanyahu. She betrayed her own base, and she towed the Israeli line, and what did it get her? She was still portrayed as the enemy of Israel and lost anyway.

That lesson will be remembered by future Democratic candidates. And that lesson is that cowing to Israel does not guarantee victory. And that is really the only realistic path forward we have right now to any change in US Israeli policy. It's going to require that Democrats get their heads out of their asses and realize that Israel is not such a winning issue anymore. THAT is what is required for real change. And hopefully, with Kamala's loss, at least some progress can be made on Democrat's chronic case of Israel fellatio.

[-] 0000011110110111i@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

The earliest that “lesson” will have any relevance is in 4 years time. In the meantime Trump is going to give Netanyahu everything he needs to quickly level Gaza, the West Bank, and Lebanon and start construction on a greater Israel. In 4 years time whatever “lesson” the Dems might have learnt will be meaningless.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

No, Arab-Americans did not hand Trump the presidency.

Yes, repeating unnuanced talking points ad infinitem convinces people, regardless of the truth.

[-] 0000011110110111i@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

They might not have been the deciding factor but they certainly played an important role in handing him the presidency.

[-] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

“I really hope that what he meant is actually what he’s going to do if he wins president,” she said. “That’s the only thing that literally pushed me to vote.”

Prepare to be disappointed because Trump is going to help turn Gaza and Lebanon into a giant sheet of glass.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Don't be absurd.

Nuclear wasteland can't be sold to new colonizers.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 1 week ago

His son, Khaled, interrupted him with a smiling comment: “Trump will end the war!”

No. No dude. You all have made a terrible mistake.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Hey at this point I’m frankly going to point and fucking laugh when these absolute fucking imbeciles scream in horror as Trump gives the IDF fucking daisycutters or something for use in Gaza and the West Bank. Like… holy fucking fuck. You have to be criminally idiotic to buy his bullshit. And you are basically begging for a Darwin Award if you’re an Arab American and you buy his bullshit. It’s shocking, baffling, and rather hilarious if you’re in a disassociative mood.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

They deserve the distress; unfortunately, the people actually dying will not deserve the consequences in the least.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

I feel bad for the people being killed.

I do not feel bad for the horror and anguish of Arab American Trump voters that occurs as a result of literally anything Trump does. As the orange man fans like to say: fuck around, find out. Congratulations, dipshits: you’re finding out.

[-] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago

Uh these dudes will definitely be deported. Sucks to be them

[-] cowfodder@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Yes, Trump definitely has a final solution for Gaza.

[-] bender223@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago

Yeah, trump will end the war, but not in the way you want, and not in a good way.

Does that voter not understand that many more people will die because trump?

But hey, at least the voter is principled. 🤦‍♂️

[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

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