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[-] garfaagel@sh.itjust.works 101 points 6 days ago

All fun and games until it happens with nazism instead of slime.

[-] femtech@midwest.social 37 points 6 days ago

Unless it's how to get your 100 Nazi scalps.

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Ew gross.

I'm not going to keep the scalps of any Nazi I kill while defending my home and loved ones.

I'll just use pen and paper to keep track.

(I'm not bothered by your comment at all, but am attempting to humorously "yes, and" with it.

I am attempting a homorous misdirect where the reader thinks I'm disgusted by threatening to kill Nazis, but then I'm actually just offended by inefficient messy ways of keeping tracked track of any killed Nazis.)

[-] Sidhean@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

The second paragraph of explanation being bigger than the whole joke wraps back around to being hilarious.

[-] femtech@midwest.social 3 points 5 days ago

Yeah, I like a clean, minimalist space. No plants, not many picture frames. Definitely would need an excel spreadsheet lol

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago

The DuoScalpy streak

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago

It's not getting updated anymore, unfortunately, but this is a cool webpage to get a feel for that: http://www.their.tube/

[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 61 points 5 days ago

This is not a story of the algorithm predicting what you like. It's showing if you expose a human to the same content over and over again. It can change their way of thinking in order to like the thing they are exposed to. Even more so if they don't know how it works and the person think everyone is into slime. I need to be into it too to fit in. It's very powerful if you want to manipulate populous. It's algorithm induced Stockholm Syndrome.

[-] Kelly@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

It's showing if you expose a human to the same content over and over again. It can change their way of thinking in order to like the thing they are exposed to.

See also: top 40 radio

[-] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago

You don't even need an algorithm to do it either. I didn't use Linux when I signed up for Lemmy...

[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

It's not always a bad thing lol

[-] nyahlathotep@sh.itjust.works 37 points 5 days ago

The phrase "ok slimers" legitimately made me laugh out loud

[-] Eggyhead@lemmings.world 37 points 5 days ago

I’m certain my YouTube feed is trying to radicalize me into some kind of culture warrior. It’s really annoying. I deleted all of my watch history to try and reset it and it just got way worse real quick. I watch one stupid video, now all I see are angry tubers upset that people don’t think exactly like they do and enjoy things they don’t. Then they convince themselves they’re more enlightened than anyone else because they make this content and ban anyone who makes fun of them, all while claiming to be “free speech advocates” of course.

YouTube got bad so fast it’s left my head spinning.

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 19 points 5 days ago

Have you tried clicking the 3 dots on these outrage videos and selecting "don't recommend channel" or a mix of that and "not interested?" I started to see a bunch of right wing political trash in my feed a while back since a lot of my watched videos could be considered adjacent (cars/trucks/offroading/home improvement/dash cam vids/etc) to what these people like and I haven't really had this issue again.

[-] rothaine@lemm.ee 28 points 5 days ago

It's wild that right wingers are always complaining about big tech censoring them when YouTube and Facebook are pushing far-right content so much

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's wild that right wingers are always complaining about big tech censoring them when YouTube and Facebook are pushing far-right content so much

I've got a conspiracy theory about this:

  1. Everyone likes kittens.
  2. Some of us who like kittens think about how to act decently to each-other, some of the time.

Leading to:

  1. Right wingers who like kittens will sometimes see something "woke" in their algorithm feed, and they feel attacked.
[-] Fermion@feddit.nl 9 points 5 days ago

They still think that YouTube and Facebook are representative of the average person. They don't understand how incredible curated those feeds are. I think that's where some of the "silent majority" mythos comes from. Everything they see is people agreeing with them, therefore it's impossible that Joe Biden got more votes in 2020.

[-] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

I have done this. I have told them not to post me shit from channels, and topics, over, and over. Best it seems it can go is like 2 months. When I tried deleting my history, and turning it off, it got SO MUCH WORSE. Even making a new account was orders of magnitude worse. As sad as it is, I am actually getting a better result... I have long been at the point where I do not click on things I am not familiar with, or without suggestion from a trusted source. So I just don't look at recommended anymore. Just look for the indicator of new stuff from my subs, or look at things I specifically search for.

[-] Jyrdano@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

Yup, last week Ive clicked on a YT video of certain game, shut it down about 1 minute in after realising it was just another rage-baiting angry youtuber lamenting how the game is too woke. Now all I get is recommendations of angry anti-woke youtube videos bashing the game I actually enjoy.

[-] Renacles@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Veilguard? I keep blocking those channels.

[-] Jyrdano@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Yeah, I was being vague to derailing this thread off topic too much.

[-] Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl 6 points 5 days ago

I started with a clean profile: I never log in to YT so it's just using a local cookie you can always clear to start over.

Anyways, I just searched a few sciencey things to feed the algorithm and now I'm getting loads of crazy fake "science" and conspiracies and the rest is all extremist right wing bullshit.

YouTube is getting useless.

[-] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

you can turn off watch history all together and it will just give you generic related videos on the side.

[-] RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

All I get recommended are craft and history videos.

[-] BugleFingers@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I get comedy skits and indie games with a splash of science and neat history stuff

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 22 points 5 days ago

The only reference I have for this was someone who I knew who rubbed said slime on herself for YouTube when she was 17 to build a following for when she turned 18 and started camming.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 12 points 5 days ago

That's fucked up

[-] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

confirmed, this is how i got into lock picking.

[-] synapse1278@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

" Hello, this is the lock picking lawyer, and what I have for you today..."

"Nothing on 3, click on 4, counter rotation on 5, back to the beginning, click on 1, and... We've got this open."

[-] perishthethought@lemm.ee 14 points 5 days ago

Things to get into this week:

  • newpipe
  • freetube

Then you decide where to go from there.

[-] gil2455526@lemmy.eco.br 11 points 5 days ago

And that is why I only open videos about topics I am only mildly interested on or from controversial channels in incognito mode even though I actually pay for ad-free YouTube Premium.

On my defense, that is the only streaming service I pay for.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

TFW you forget to wear protection when clicking on a weird video and you permanently scar your algorithm. You try to heal it, but days or weeks later, you are showing your boss a video on marine grade industrial sealant and Chappell Roan Pink Pony Club shows up in your recommended videos and you have to lie and say you have no idea what it is. When he is gone, you play it again.

[-] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

clicking on a weird video and you permanently scar your algorithm.

It's trivial to delete individual videos from your watch history, even moreso if you just saw it. Doing so makes it as if you never clicked on it in the first place.

[-] yonder@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago

At least premium has the benefit of paying creators more for your watch time, which is nice.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Or turn off history tracking and it stops doing that shit

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago

Tags: Slime Girl

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 4 points 5 days ago

As recent advances in AI have shown, humans are really quite predictable when you throw enough data and compute at the problem. At some point the algorithm will be sophisticated enough that it'll be able to get to know you better than you know yourself, and will be able to provide you with things you had no idea were what you really wanted.

Interesting times.

[-] QuizzaciousOtter@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago

Isn't this true for many years now?

[-] i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk 6 points 5 days ago

Yes, I heard/saw/read that this is exactly what Amazon do, some years back now. They know who you are, what stage of life you are at, and they know what you want before you do.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 6 points 5 days ago

Yes, but recent advances have really rubbed it in our faces in ways that are a lot harder to deny. Humans haven't become fundamentally more or less predictable over time but recent advances have shown how predictable we are.

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago

Yep. I learned from an algorithm that I might enjoy music by "The Beatles". The algorithm was quite correct, but I think my having simple tastes, and the Beatles having amazing music is due most of the credit.

[-] Schmeckinger@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Yeah algorithms keep throwing stuff at me I would probably like to watch, but I don't click on it to not get even more brain damage.

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I had this exact experience with music algorithm recommendations:

The algorithm analyzed all the songs I asked it to play, and concluded (correctly) that I might enjoy listening to the Beatles. (True story.)

(Now a bit of sarcasm:) I look forward to future insights, in other art forms, such as perhaps the writings of Shakespeare or the paintings of Leonardo Da Vinci.

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 5 days ago

Yeah doubtful. I think it finds something you will engage in and push on it over and over again until people get normalized to it.

I think it's more like cold reading from a psychic. It's gonna use generic generalized data about the big identifiers for you like age and gender and as you respond try to change its answer to what it needs to based on what you gave it.

That's not new or magical in any way. And it can be really wrong about the broad stuff if you don't fit in with generic identifying groups related to you.

It really just feels like a sales pitch for the middle class to buy more stuff.

[-] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 1 points 5 days ago
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