Another twist in the Ziz saga (cw death/shooting) (www.tumblr.com)

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I don’t think I posted this before, but if I did lemme know.

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[-] swlabr@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

CW: death/shooting

I guess I missed all of this. Here’s an article on the incident in which Emma was shot and killed:

https://sfist.com/2022/11/16/vallejo-squatters-whom-neighbors-referred-to-as-the-cult-implicated-in-crazy-sword-incident-and-shooting/

It is difficult to determine as an outside observer as to what is the truth here. There are at least three narratives at play, and I can’t give any particular weight to any of them.

[-] saucerwizard@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“ He's bragged about being the hidden hand behind some of the worst of the rationalist scene's abuse, egging on the wrong people and pushing them towards psychotic breaks, just to see if he can.”

Does anyone know more? Was he involved with Grognor (ugly story)?

[-] saucerwizard@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago

I go to this guys website and he’s advertising his appearance on Eigenrobots…thing. Oh goody.

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

aww shit, I'd finally managed to forget that eigenrowboat existed

time to reset the counter to 0

[-] titotal@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago

Obvious reminder: do not assume that anonymous tumblr posts are accurate. (this is the only post the tumblr account made).

Has anyone attempted a neutral unpacking of the mess of claims and counterclaims around Ziz and related parties?

[-] saucerwizard@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago

That would honestly be a job for a real journalist.

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