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[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 147 points 2 months ago

Zionists really captured that platform.

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[-] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 110 points 2 months ago

Hey everybody has a right to a racist ethnostate how dare people criticize the idea.

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[-] Viri4thus@feddit.org 87 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Next, apartheid will be anti-Semitic.

[-] wpb@lemmy.world 71 points 2 months ago

The same way I don't think we should capitulate to framing "cracker" as a slur, or to framing "black lives matter" as a racist thing to say, I don't think we should capitulate to framing things like "from the river to the sea" or "zionist" as antisemitic.

But, as a thought experiment, let's indulge in this doublespeak trash. What is a good alternative? So far I've got:

  • Israeli colonizers
  • Jewish supremacists
  • genocidal sacks of shit
  • Israeli apartheidists
  • Isreal expansionists
  • Israeli warmongerers
  • people in favor of the genocide and apartheid committed by Israel (in full, every time you need to say zionist)
  • modern day nazis
  • zionazis (technically not zionist!)

So all of this liberal crybaby nomenclature trash aside, I actually do think "zionist" is in itself a fairly useless term for the Israeli apartheid question (as Norman Finkelstein and Judith Butler do too). While one faction of zionism pursued the nakba and massacres from fairly early on, and while this faction has been quite successful, there are other notions of zionism which do not entail murdering children or colonizing a country. When Netanyahu and Chomsky can both legitimately refer to themselves as zionists, I think it's clear that zionism is too broad a term to be useful in the current ongoing genocide and the ethnic cleansing that has been going on for the better part of a century.

[-] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

the problem is that about 75% of people have no idea what happened during the partition plan and 20% who do think what the Zionists did were justified (even pre partition/pre war/war time(

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[-] chloroken@lemmy.ml 57 points 2 months ago

Can we make Twitch a slur for terrible tech companies.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 months ago

All tech companies eventually enshitify and we would never be able to remember all of them if they all became slurs. Lol

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 40 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's great how people are gathering and having discussions under heavily censored platforms owned by billionaries, just amazing.

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[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 months ago

OK, so people can use the definition instead. In fact it might be more useful.

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[-] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 35 points 2 months ago

How about "genocidal assholes?" Can they still say that?

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 35 points 2 months ago

How do you people propose to call them? Expansionists? Colonialists? Genocidists?

[-] scutiger@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

Israeli supremacists

[-] lorty@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 months ago

Waiting for the free-speech absolutists to boycott twitch for this (they won't)

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

One of the orchestrators of this whole thing, Destiny, defends child porn and the use of slurs.

Ironic is putting it lightly.

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

I'm willing to get this will increase the amount of actual ethnic slurs.

[-] wertyuiop@feddit.rocks 17 points 2 months ago

It's their goal. They want to conflate jewishness and israel because they need the world to be antisemitic.

Otherwise people would just leave.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 months ago

They already banned a swathe of pro-palestinian political streamers in the run up to the US election, so this is likely retroactive reasoning.

[-] RiQuY@lemm.ee 21 points 2 months ago

Friendly reminder that selfhosted streaming exists (Owncast) or online alternatives like PeerTube.

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

But Zionism isn't a religion, it's a nationalist movement.

[-] Thteven@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago
[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/removed

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wetback_(slur)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spic

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paki_(slur)

So yeah. Not that 'Zionist' is a slur

Edit: Really, shitty censorship bot? We're adulterating URLs now, and selectively only that specific slur? Gross on both counts

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[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago

Never used it and never will, but maybe we can make Twitch become a slur?

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago

TBH people should talk about zionism and zionists much more.

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[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 15 points 2 months ago

Once genz matures, public opinion on Israel will shift. I hope Israel enters the "and find out" stage.

Fuck 'em, disgusting parasites leeching on US might to commit a genocide. Americans will pay for this too...

next 9/11: why would anybody do this to us 🤡

sad reality many of us did not sign up to fund the genocide but AIPAC was able to infiltrated state and corpos from within while avoiding foreign agent registration.

our spooks are fucking useless...

[-] PedroG14@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Okay, now streamers can get more creative when refering to a zionist. I think that 'bibi's removed' is a good term.

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They probably don't like zionazi either. Neither this nor zionist is a code word for Jew. The entire political class, the great majority being Christian, and their donors are zionist, because going with the flow of AIPAC is path to get your candidates to also serve your oligarchist or Christofascist protections.

Netanyahuists or likudists or Mossadists or Epsteinists ok?

BTW, Chuck Shumer is going to allow a vote in Senate over this "criticism of zionism is anti semitic" law in US. Reddit also supports mods who recomend permabans over criticism of zionism already.

[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago
[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago

Twitch has become garbage anyway. I’m more on Kick for streams nowadays.

Anyway wasn’t “Zionist” suppose to be a good term for these murderers? Whether they make it a banable word, screw them. Those who defend Israel, their genocidal actions and claim that the land “belongs to them, the colonizers” are Zionists.

[-] dinckelman@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Twitch is garbage, so you moved to a platform ran by a gambling company, where rules practically don't exist, and the majority of the userbase is vehemently sexist and racist? That's a level of mental gymnastics I genuinely will never understand

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[-] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 9 points 2 months ago

Good thing I'm an anti-zionist then I suppose.

[-] ghurab@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

sooo twitch declares the Zionist movement offensive? and should only discussed in sn academic sense? /s

wow twitch, very brave!!

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"How dare you use a word that means 'genocidal, imperialist, apartheid, ethnostate' in a way that explicitly means 'genocidal, imperialist, apartheid, ethnostate'!" - Twitch, active supporters and enablers of genocidal, imperialist, apartheid ethnostates.

[-] linkerbaan@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

Ethan and Hila Klein are filthy Zionists.

[-] r00ty@kbin.life 6 points 2 months ago

Sir, this isn't a Twitch.

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