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Donald Trump’s 2024 campaign has reignited fears among undocumented migrants with promises of “mass deportations” and migrant communities are bracing for uncertainty and a new wave of nativism.

His administration plans to target those deemed public safety or national security threats, potentially reinstating workplace raids and using military resources.

Advocates warn that “collateral arrests” could sweep up migrants without criminal records.

Many, like “Dreamers” protected under DACA, fear family separations, while others, such as Carlos in NYC, hope Trump’s economic policies might benefit them.

"A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too," said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I get that TikTok, YT Shorts, and FaceBook slowly removes attention span, but how the fuck does it cause Amnesia for everything that happened before 2020?

Trump literally removed holding time limitations and changed the Criminal Only ICE focus of previous administrations so they could put women and children in cages deport children alone to random South American nations citing some ancient treaties.

This already fucking happened. All of it.

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[-] BaalInvoker@lemmy.eco.br 34 points 1 week ago

Smokers hope cancer reaches only 'bad people'

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

I know y’all want to make this a stupid voters leopards ate my balls post but these are undocumented people. They can not vote and had no say in the election.

[-] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Remember the old maxim: "no one hates new immigrants more than old immigrants"... Their fellow legalized immigrants supported this outcome as well

[-] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I’m sorry, my “give a fuck” stopped working just after the election results came in.

Trump promised to deport illegals and even “denaturalize” certain citizens. He wants to deport 20 million illegal immagrants separate family and put the in camps while awaiting deportation. None of this was a secret, they fucking bragged about it.

Trump gained 14 points nationally with Hispanics. I hope he goes balls to the fucking wall and drops the hammer. May the people get exactly what they voted for.

Meanwhile, I’m going to do the best to make sure me and mine are taken care of. Stock up on toilet paper, N95 masks, freeze dried food and bullets. It’s gonna be lit!🔥

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Why didn't literally everyone tell me that the racist genocidal maniac was a racist genocidal maniac?"

[-] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

INCLUDING the racist, genocidal maniac?!?1?

[-] leadore@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

“A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too,” said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

Oh Carlos, mi dulce niño del verano ...

[-] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

He will have a rude awakening, more like the law being rammed on his anus along with an one way ticket

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[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago

I'm honestly terrified as a naturalized citizen that he's going to either try to revoke my citizenship or ignore it altogether :/

[-] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

Birthright citizenship is on the chopping block

[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If they're allowed to carry out their plans in full, will there even BE any path to citizenship?

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[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

Anyone that thinks that it's going to be only 'criminals' that get deported forget that crossing the border without documentation is a crime. Yeah, it's a misdemeanor, but it's still a crime, and the Trump administration is still going to deport them when they can.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 8 points 1 week ago

Adjudicating whether or not someone is guilty of a crime, or in the US illegally, requires a trial. Doing that for millions of people all of a sudden within a system that’s already backed up by more than a year is completely impossible.

In other words, they are absolutely talking about deporting innocent people of the wrong ethnicity without any attempt at due process, and anyone who thinks different is living in a dream world. And then, once they’re done with that batch, they plan to move on to other classes of undesirables.

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

requires a trial.

Not for people that are undocumented. People that are not in the us legally get hearings, but that's policy rather than law, IIRC. Due process gets a little weird here, because the process in question isn't a matter of law or the constitution.

Regardless - it's not going to go well for anyone that thinks that he doesn't mean them.

The denaturalization concept--stripping naturalized citizens of citizenship--is fa, far scarier than deportation. Once you can strip citizenship from a naturalized citizen, and once you've eliminated birthright citizenship, you've got a roadmap for stripping citizenship from anyone.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Due process gets a little weird here

That's a strange way to say "asylum seekers don't have rights because they're not legally considered people by US law"..

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Maybe they're going to hold them under detention while trying millions and millions of people. Might need to build new detention facilities, of course, some kind of camps where they can concentrate the population. It's going to take a long time too, so in the name of government efficiency they can lease them out to businesses and farms for labor while they await their trials. Work sets you free.

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[-] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

It always amazes me when people, even leftists, come up with arguments like „he won’t have enough judges to deport that many people“ or „camps need supplies. How would you do that in such a short amount of time for so many immigrants?“.

These are plans by the same people that took children from their parents and put them into cages „supervised“ by thugs with batons. And they „lost“ a lot of kids in the process. And they bragged about it.

If the rule of law gets absolutely destroyed by mass deportations/internments it’s a feature, not a bug to them. You don’t need judges if you have enough thugs who „just follow orders“ „for the greater good“.

Likewise news of immigrants in camps lacking basic necessities, food and healthcare will just feed their lust for cruelty. And their base will be happy, because those immigrants „brought it upon themselves“, „can always go back to their home country if they don’t like it“ and „need to be a warning for others“.

Nothing good will come of it. People here in Germany also though that Hitler guy was a bit of a joke, failed his coup attempt, and things „would never get THAT bad“. Spoiler: it did. And then some.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 12 points 1 week ago

you all understand this is about racism, right? this is a giant dog whistle for rounding up non-white people and getting them the fuck out of their white nationalist dream.

its not about crime, or which immigrants are good or bad. its about kicking out the brown peoples. its easy to manipulate racist voters. they are all ignorant cowards.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 week ago

i think there's so much discourse about this since Latin men voted, on the whole, for trump. there is a non zero number of people who, if trump implements his border control plan, voted for their own deportation

also, white people dont own a monopoly on racism. some of the most racist people i know are also 'legal' immigrants of a minority population.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago

no one hates immigrants more than an immigrant who made it

i've heard that quote a few times. but i think it's on the whole sadder:

no one hates the poor more than a poor person who thinks they made it

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[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Please stop spreading misinformation.

A supermajority of Latino voters voted for Kamala, including a majority of Latino men specifically.

https://unidosus.org/press-releases/hispanic-voters-back-harris-over-trump-by-a-62-37-margin-cite-economic-concerns-as-top-priorities/

The only groups that supported Trump with a majority are white people.

White people are the problem, not Hispanic and black voters.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2024-11-06/how-5-key-demographic-groups-helped-trump-win-the-2024-election

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[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Stephen “nazi” Miller wants to create an army from Trump loyal national guard members and go into “blue” states to enforce deportation.

I doubt they’ll check if you’re a criminal or not.

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[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Do they not realize that he and his core audience believe the greatest crime a person can commit is not be born white?

[-] Xatolos@reddthat.com 10 points 1 week ago

“If you’re here illegally, you better be looking over your shoulder.”

They've also mentioned along the lines of "if you are here illegally, then you've already committed a crime".

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

The fun part is, it's not actually a crime. That's why they use immigration judges and not criminal ones.

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[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too," said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

So long, Carlos.

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I'm still trying to understand this belief that he is good for the economy. He's a failed business man who bankrupted a casino. His successful businesses are all grifts and money laundering. To say nothing of how our econemy tanked after 4 years of his failed trade wars and 2+2=7 tax plan.

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[-] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As someone posted in another thread, the mass deportations of Mexicans in the late 1920s/early 1930s ended up deporting American born Mexicans as well. So yeah, America deported actual American citizens because they didn't care or couldn't be bothered to check papers or whatever. Who's to say that isn't going to happen this time around?

Also, Trump said Latinos have a "murder gene," so he already thinks they're all criminals of some sort.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Everyone here who stayed past their visa or crossed the border illegally is a criminal to the Republicans regardless of any attempts at asylum or other legal avenues to stay. (Yes, they have done something illegal, no need to be a pedant)

Especially if they're brown.

If they're white and have some money, they'll be fine.

If they're brown and working for a Republican illegally, they'll just get paid less and worked harder while being threatened with deportation if they complain.

[-] islands@lemmy.cafe 7 points 1 week ago

How can anyone listen to Trump's racist rants about shit hole countries and walk away thinking "he doesn't mean me"? He absolutely means you. There's about to be a whole lot of faces meeting some very hungry leopards.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What part of "mass deportations" do people not understand? Trump told us what he's going to do. His cabinet pick told us what he's going to do. They're going to do it.

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[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I'm worried they're going to start raiding schools and daycares as well in order to force parents to turn themselves in or just to be malicious. A lot of children are going to be separated from their parents.

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[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I sincerely wish the absolute worst on any marginalized group that voted for Trump. You have nothing but my deepest sincere disgust and deserve whatever happens to you.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I sincerely hope you're never in a position of authority.

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[-] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago

I sincerely wish the absolute worst on any marginalized group that voted for Trump.

Are white people exempt from that or why did you choose that wording?

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I chose that wording because Trump is a massive racist and yet all these minority groups he's openly shit on still voted for him and they can get fucked.

Because yeah Mr. "Build the wall" is totally gonna have your back.

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[-] takeda@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Aren't criminals already being deported if they are caught? He was clear that he is after immigrants (in some speeches illegal, but in some even legal)

[-] plz1@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

They made "migrating" a crime, so, yeah, leopards...face...

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[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Very foolish people. Get ready to find a new home.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

They will grab anyone they can get their hands on. Criminals will have the advantage that they know how to hide, and there are way more non-criminals, so Jose Average will be picked first, being the easiest target to fulfill the quota.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 1 week ago

Narrator: "It won't be."

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