That's the point? The left get demoralized and the right can't be because they have no morals. Its part of the reason right wingers tend to have a dozen children, it's quite literally biblical drown them in numbers bullshit.

You don’t need to have kids to pass on values. The basic premise of your statement doesn’t hold up.

Any society that doesn't impart those values across the board to its citizens will devolve into shit regardless.

It's basically just math.

People with zero values are going to fuck like rabbits and people with values aren't.

If trash family has 5 kids they can't take care of and a dad that leaves, that's at least 4 really mad poor kids that are going to blame a lot on somesuch minority for their problems in 18 years.

You'd have to be immortal, first. Most kids are gonna live to see their own parents pass.

Tragedy is a part of life.

It's easily avoidable tragedy, unaddressed by those who could do something about it, that's the problem.

Even worse, there's potentially extinction level tragedy happening right now, going unaddressed by those who can do something about it.

RIP Alaska, Hawaii, and Michigan's Upper Peninsula

I mean, the UK has 2 out of 3 of those. And most countries have the violent racism.

Look at this guy who thinks the USA invented racism and holds a monopoly on it.

When we go down we are taking all of you with us.

Please consider adoption as an alternative if you are in a stable situation and want children.

This is mostly copied over from my recent comments elsewhere, but it is very relevant here too.

By 2030 we are going to be 40% over capacity on fresh water resources globally. and 40% of arable land has already been depleted, and 95% will be by 2050.

And that's just water and food.

Once arctic ice sheet coverage gets below 1,000,000 square kilometres, the planet will be absorbing more heat than it reflects and this is called a Blue Ocean Event.

The BOE will trigger the Clathrate Gun which will cause seabeds to rapidly realease fuck tons of methane, cooking the earth in it's own atmosphere.

2024 Arctic sea ice likely reached its annual minimum extent of 4.28 million square kilometers.

Greenhouse gas emissions are still increasing and fuelled by climate change, the world's oceans have broken temperature records every single day over the past year.

So it's basically a race between whether the drought and famine kill us all first, or the BOE setting off the Clathrate Gun will.

Either way, it is unlikely the human race survives the century. Creating more people to suffer in this dying world, is stupid and cruel and is only going to speed up our demise.

That’s the neat part, there isn’t!

But being more serious: I think I can express the feeling of things being particularly worse now in a way that isn’t just recency bias.

Sure, over time technology has improved and that’s generally speaking allowed for better standards of living, at least for the people at the right end of that technology. (Not so great if you’re being conquered because someone shows up with guns for example.) So you could look at the past and say it was worse because materially things like food availability and medicine have become better over time.

But key to this was that all of this was a struggle of humans over nature. To the extent things were bad, there were tangible things we could do to improve.

These days, so many of our problems are self-inflicted and technology and economic development mostly makes them worse. Climate change is the obvious big one, but then there’s stuff like:

• Weapons have become increasingly destructive and centrally usable. A small number of people can cause a lot more damage than they ever could in the past.

• Surveillance technology invades our privacy in a way that’s unprecedented in human history.

• Automation, communications, and transportation technology have made workers less and less powerful and therefore more subject to abuse and artificial poverty. This is one of the more messed up things about capitalism. Technology gets better and rather than getting the benefits of that progress, it actually hurts a lot of people.

• Advances in science and technology, particularly data science, allow the powerful to hyper-optimize the bad things they were always doing or enables them to do things they’ve wanted to do.

• A financialized economy creates economic catastrophes where people go homeless or starve without any actual changes to material conditions. The numbers got screwed up or the investors panicked and now everything sucks for no reason?

• More generally, we can produce enough of the necessities of life for everyone, but capitalism ensures that those necessities won’t make it to people. Capitalism depends on scarcity. If you had a house you wouldn’t need to pay a landlord. If you had food you wouldn’t need to pay food companies. If you had both you wouldn’t need to go work and put up with awful conditions. We’ve solved our most fundamental problems and yet because of the interests of the system and those in power, that progress gets held back.

In the past, even if things were rough now, you could maybe look forward to them improving. Now it feels like the walls are closing in. Unless we actively do something about it, things are going to get worse for most people as more and more wealth accumulates in private hands, as we become subject to increasingly powerful forms of control, and as the powerful destroy the environment we need to live.

Always whatever year you never lived

Don't forget soldiers. As George Carlin said, "Live babies make dead soldiers."

2024+: Climate change, water wars, resultant mass migration, worldwide rise of fascism.

You're right we should have stopped having children millennia ago. I wish my parents never met.

I don't think you understand why people stop having kids, do you? video