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[-] bradd@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

My thing is this...

  1. Adding it requires effort
  2. Removing it, if possible, requires effort
  3. It's not a requirement
  4. There are other alternative methods to get it, like toothpaste, or sumpliments, that don't force your neighbors to have your fluoride.
[-] infinite_ass@leminal.space -4 points 6 days ago

I never met the fellow. I never did the science either.

You all are easily impressed.

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[-] RacerX@lemm.ee -2 points 6 days ago

This post written by Big Fluoride.

[-] FluorideMind@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago

Nah trust me bro.

[-] sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Toxicity is a big word. What about small long term effects?

Lithium is prohibited in eu outside of psychiatric therapy, too. But it might be an essential nutrient (small doses).

My trust into the official ~~narrative~~ science is limited.

Edit: as the tobacco interest group has proven studies and scientific evidence can be bought. Don’t know why y’all are reacting so allergic

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[-] RQG@lemmy.world 268 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Toxicologist here. I think that take is dishonest or dumb.

Taking a lethal dose is almost never the concern with any substance in our drinking water.

Hormones, heavy metals, persistent organic chemicals, ammonia are all in our drinking water. But for all of them we can't drink enough water to die from a high dose.

Some of them still have a large effect on our bodies.

It's about the longterm effects. Which we need longterm studies to learn about. That makes them harder to study.

Still doesn't mean flouride does anything bad longerm. But the argument is bad.

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 116 points 1 week ago

Yeah, by this argument lead in the water isn't a concern.

[-] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 108 points 1 week ago

You just made me mad by helping me realize that the Trump bros are going to break water by removing fluoride long before they fix water by removing lead.

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[-] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 90 points 1 week ago

Oh yeah? And what if someone ignores that, simply lies and says it's toxic? I'm convinced!

[-] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

And both of these people telling me about fluoride in water are both experts in their field. One an expert toxicologist, and the other an expert liar. Now I don't know what to believe.

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 72 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The fluoride added to water gets it up to 0.7mg/liter.

That ends up to be 2 or 3 drops in a 55 gallon drums worth of water. Not much.

Fluoride is a natural substance and is found in many areas drinking water already. Many areas in much higher concentrations than 0.7mg/liter, so realistically people all over the world have drank fluoridated water for thousands of years.

You have to well over double the 0.7 before any health issues may appear and the first to appear is at about triple the concentration in kids under 8 years old who drink it for years getting spots on their teeth. The spots are only superficial.

Going into concentrations even higher than that CAN cause health issues when drank for longer periods of time. All of those cases being from naturally occurring fluoride, which actually effects somewhere north of 20% of the world's population.

Which makes the argument that fluoride in our water keeps us passive as being extra stupid, since water sourced around Columbia (the country) is far higher than .07mg/liter and Columbia seems to be caught in violence and turmoil and instability quite a bit over the decades.

*edit: Colombia

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[-] solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 1 week ago

It's not about toxicity, it's about mind control! Fluoride makes you passive. But you know this since you're a tool of the government pushing poison.

Just bleach your teeth like normal people! You know, with the bleach under the kitchen sink.

(Don't actually do this)

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[-] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 55 points 1 week ago

Toxicologist, toxicity, minuscule, fluoridated -- your big doctor words are just trying to trick us!

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago

So, once again, DHMO is the chemical we need to fear.

[-] BreadOven@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Fun fact. Literally everyone who has died, ever, has had DHMO in some form. You're even exposed in the womb!

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[-] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 1 week ago

Yeah but I read an article on a bullshit website. I think some no name website knows more than a toxicologist

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[-] 4oreman@lemy.lol 39 points 1 week ago

This is a conspiracy by fluoridians.

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