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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world to c/starwarsmemes@lemmy.world

The drama is related to a Science Fiction community mod and and admin. I don't know enough to write on it, so check there.

Edit: MFW I just wanted to make a meme but dragged all the drama here

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[-] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 109 points 1 year ago

For those who missed this. Izzy, the (only) mod at the science fiction community, was banned by admins.

The reason is him often complaining about there being ads in the Sync client for Lemmy.

Admins take that as toxic behavior and harassment, and ultimately banned him. Which... Take it as you wish, the modlog and comment histories are available.

Izzy came back from another account to say their goodbyes, as they no longer wish to be involved anyway. This post seems to have disappeared.

Then a bit later, admin came to SF to make a post looking for new mods. When people brought up the situation, they locked the thread.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

You know, I thought nothing about it for a second until I remembered a conversation I was in a couple days ago...and sure enough, there is Izzy in my inbox complaining about Sync having ads.

I had said something along the lines of their stance being a weird hill to die on, but it looks like die on it they did.

[-] canthidium@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would just like to chime in here as I helped Izzy mod c/sciencefiction for a couple months and left the mod team a couple weeks ago. I decided to leave that community mostly because I just wasn't that interested in the subject matter but also because I wasn't vibing with Izzy. I noticed a lot of their posts about Sync and yes, they were pretty relentless popping in many threads just to shit on the ad platform. It was a lot. I also noticed some, what I feel are toxic comments, in some posts about COVID and I ultimately decided I didn't want to involve myself with them any longer. Now I only know what Antik and Izzy have stated, there hasn't been any additional given in mod channels so I know as much as you all, but I believe there is more that Izzy was doing in private messages that led to their ban. They were polite to me in our personal conversations but I can see them taking it too far with the admins. Take that for what you will, just my opinion. But I thought I'd at least say something having been a mod in that community as well.

[-] antik@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Wow thank you @canthidium@lemmy.world. I didn't want to include you in this mess but I appreciate this a lot.

[-] canthidium@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Of course, I had quite a few conversations with Izzy dealing with modding that community and I followed them probably closer than many other users did so I wanted to share my POV on the matter.

[-] wahming 24 points 1 year ago

Pretty biased take. The guy WAS toxic, I had dealt with him before. He'd just jump on any comment concerning sync to get on his soapbox, regardless of whether it was relevant. The community's better off without that nonsense.

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[-] scytale@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

Was he as obnoxious with the sync rants as the admins said he was though? The way they said it seemed to me they were complaining about it everywhere. Although I’m not sure how that got admin attention. Maybe lots of users reported them?

[-] RobMyBot@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

I've seen the guy around and it's literally the only thing I've ever witnessed him talk about. It's like an actual obsession.

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[-] antik@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I replied to you a bit lower here too and this will also be my last post about this because if you don't understand it now you never will and i will accept that.

Izzy came back from another account to say their goodbyes, as they no longer wish to be involved anyway. This post seems to have disappeared.

All Izzy's accounts are banned. And the reason they posted was not to say "that they didn't wish to be involved any longer" because that's a bit after-the-fact right. They wanted to cause more drama.

Then a bit later, admin came to SF to make a post looking for new mods. When people brought up the situation, they locked the thread.

I posted what we had to say and closed the thread immediately after. You are twisting the timeline of events to use it in your favor, pure sensationalism.

You seem to feel a certain way about the admins on this instance. You are a moderator and you would be welcome to interact with others in our moderator discord server and at least make an informed post but seemingly you prefer not to interact with the others and instead to make up your own version of things.

But to end this on a positive note, we had people reach out to become moderators on !sciencefiction@lemmy.world and we'll hook them up with eachother so they can get things going again.

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[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

The reason is him often complaining about there being ads in the Sync client for Lemmy.

bet there is a bit more to it than that..

[-] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Why not just use a different app or something. I use Memmy and there’s zero ads.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Damn. Makes me glad I main on a different instance altogether. Getting banned for complaining about ads? I'd have been gone the first week.

[-] Jtee@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

With all the available clients that don't have ads, is there really justification to complain?

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago

If you like something and it has one major flaw there's nothing wrong with being vocal about wanting it to be better

Though yeah one should prolly swap eventually

[-] Decoy321@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's the dumbest reason though. The reason Sync has ads is because the person who made Sync wants to make money off it. Just like they did for Sync for Reddit.

That's why they put ads in.

Unlike every other Lemmy client, which lacks ads.

This dude deliberately picked his hill among many other options, walked their ass voluntarily all the wall to the top, then shot themselves.

[-] Jtee@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Fully agree! I'm not fully in the loop but it sounds like a lot of complaining occured instead of realizing it was going nowhere.

Haven't come across any ads in Voyager. Jus sayin

[-] Neve8028@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just buy it and you'll get no ads. Not everything is free. There are plenty of other free options, anyways.

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[-] marcos@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Complaining about ads, in an unaffiliated (well, you can't be affiliated to lemmy at all) 3rd party client...

Well, we can say he was gone on his own terms. The terms weren't very wise, but they were his own.

But now I'm wondering about the future of scifi@world.

[-] antik@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I see you love sci-fi

[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

This sounds perfectly Reddit.

I thought we came to the Fediverse to escape this bullshit.

[-] Spaniard@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

No matter where you go, you can't escape that if you are interacting with humans.

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[-] 8ace40@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

I just think that lemmy.world tries really really hard to be reddit.

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[-] i2ndshenanigans@lemmy.world 85 points 1 year ago

Hate to break it to you but every site where people can talk to each other always comes with drama.

[-] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 49 points 1 year ago

Hate to break it to you but ~~every site where~~ people ~~can talk to each other always~~ come~~s~~ with drama.

Fixed it.

[-] RobMyBot@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago
[-] antik@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This was a case of harassment from one user to another. That one is a developer of a successful app and the other is the moderator of a successful community has nothing to do with it. Izzy was asked on numerous occasions to stop derailing every conversation and stop targeting the user. You can not like something, you can be critical of something but at least try to be constructive. They were relentless. And when a warning was given by the admin they came back guns blazing, now also making accusations towards the admin team.

We have NO financial connection to Sync. We do not accept ANY money or other incentives from anyone exactly for this reason also, about how it might look if things go south.

Normally we don't talk about the bans in public because whatever we say people will twist the story make their own versions of it and run with it. So I posted what we had to say about that and locked the thread.

So finally I just want to say that it is unfortunate what happened but there were MANY occasions where Izzy was offered the chance to prevent this from happening. And as a moderator of a big community he has to be an example. Moderators should be held to a higher standard than normal users.

Edit: for another perspective, the other moderator from !sciencefiction@lemmy.world who left the community a while ago chimes in: https://lemmy.world/comment/3571751

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago

Drama is a pathway to arguments some consider... unnatural.

[-] wahming 21 points 1 year ago

Huh. I thought the name sounded familiar, went back and checked my history. Yep, he was trolling a sync thread and getting into arguments over ads a month ago. Some stupid take about better to have no free software than ad supported. Can't say I'm too surprised to hear this happened.

[-] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 year ago

Internet drama is fun. The problem is Reddit started the wrong kind of drama.

[-] Bizarroland@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

Reddit basically started an internet orgy at their house and after the party had long been started declared that they're the only ones allowed to cum.

[-] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I was trying to think of a meme for this situation but I'm too depressed, honestly. So yea, apt

[-] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Seeing your name in the other community is what made me think to make a star wars même!

[-] miniu@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago

That's good. It means the platform is growing :P

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[-] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

I moved my account from Lemmy.world to another instance for reasons, what's happening now?

[-] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

According to the one comment I read from some mod or admin on the sci-fi community, one of the mods was starkly against some feature and supposedly would derail the conversation with criticisms every time it came up. They were kicked for 1 day and allegedly threw a fit, demanding repercussions and apologies, and crossed a line in their appeals, so they were permanently banned.

Don't know everything though, this is literally just one second or third hand perspective.

Edit: whoops didn't realize someone else already described it haha. Take a look further down the thread (or higher depending on how you have it sorted)

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Same shit, different day it seems

[-] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

What happend?

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