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[-] ryper@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

That setting and Microsoft's "Connected Experiences" predate the current AI nonsense. Here's a list of connected experiences the OneNote app sent me to when I tapped "Learn More". It's all stuff that does some degree of analysis on your data, so somebody probably thought treating AI as a "connected experience" made sense.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 hours ago

We word with government data that can never be touched by third parties, can never leave the country either. We take great care with that

Also: Government here stores most of its in Microsoft services...

[-] AllToRuleThemOne@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

Is this relevant for Europe?

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago
[-] wobfan@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 hours ago

Are they not allowed to do it for users in Europe?

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

EU has consumer protections miles ahead of the US. Sometimes Americans get good things from it anyway. Example from just today - my wife's iPhone began working with RCS format so now we can send photos to each other without them looking like shit. We were using Whatsapp for photos.

[-] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 3 points 6 hours ago

you can just sext in pixels. I assume you know what each other look like. : )

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I wish that were the case. I travel often for work so we send a lot of photos.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 28 points 13 hours ago

If you use Microsoft office for work stuff, how do they get away with this? I get that they can violate your rights as an individual because fuck the consumer you peons don’t get representation from your government representatives, but when you’re working for some other company which has its own ton of lawyers and you use this product, how is Microsoft not getting their shit sued out of them?

[-] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 21 points 12 hours ago

That can be controlled by group policy for corporate installations

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

Of course it can be. But what if you don’t do that. It’s then just totally fine for Microsoft to gank your IP? Like that’s totally legal and will stand up in court?

Or what if some employee fucks with their settings? Sure you can fire the employee but what about the IP Microsoft now has? It’s all good for them to use that?

Same if I just print out a bunch of documents, walk into Microsoft’s offices and hand it to them. Sure my company can fire me, maybe even sue me. But that doesn’t make the IP suddenly fair game. Even by just looking at it, Microsoft could potentially open themselves up to legal trouble.

So I don’t see how any of this is legal.

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[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 19 points 13 hours ago

It's manageable through GPO and off by default in Enterprise and Education like the other unconscionable shit I guess.

[-] ziggurat@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Or maybe the guys in the company doing the gpo's need to update their certification so they learn this shit....

Just guessing, I'm a Linux guy in a Linux company. Maybe the way I worded the comment was disingenuous, but when Microsoft is so unethical I am using the "to quoque" logical fallacy to justify it

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I'm not familiar with to quoque. How is that pronounced. Kuocue? Cock?

[-] ziggurat@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I miss spelled it it's tu not to

Pronounced too-kwoh-kwe

It's a word I can only remember having read, but I checked YouTube, and that's what the thumbnail said (didn't see the video, my kids are sleeping)

[-] mynameisigglepiggle@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Yeah I think at this point it's really just on the company - why are you still using such an untrustworthy piece of software?

[-] wandermind@sopuli.xyz 31 points 14 hours ago

I find this kind of thing particularly questionable because I like many people am often dealing with documents and text which I do not have the right to share with anybody even if I wanted to.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

I am sure all the financial institutions and medical organizations are verrrrrry thrilled about this.

[-] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 36 points 15 hours ago

Why not call spade a spade. It is Piracy setting not Privacy setting. How come when big corporations pirate it is called AI training whereas for us it is stealing.

[-] lseif@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 hours ago

that gives a bad name to piracy.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago

Because they own the lawmakers.

[-] TheAristocrat@lemmy.world 25 points 14 hours ago

I'm sure it's disabled at hospitals by default to prevent exporting protected patient information. Right?

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

I work in government. We have third-party IT services, and we're legally required to take the lowest bid.

They can't handle setting up an email address without fucking up 19 times. There's no way they'll be disabling this for the whole city, so we're going to be illegally sharing information because it's the default setting.

[-] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 85 points 18 hours ago

It also breaks a ton of non related features if you turn it off

[-] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 30 points 15 hours ago

Hey Copilot, remove everything related to Microsoft Edge.

Ok. Removing Everything.

screen goes black

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Screen goes black

Apartment starts shaking

Void starts forming and devouring everything

Entire universe is deleted from existence

"It was all Microsoft Edge?"

"Always has been."

[-] msage@programming.dev 28 points 14 hours ago

You know I can't let you do that, Dave

[-] Sammy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 16 hours ago

Only a multi-billion dollar company can provide this kind of service. Incredible. /s

[-] grue@lemmy.world 53 points 17 hours ago

So, if it's on by default and then you turn it off, do they delete all the data they stole from you while you were trying to get to the setting?

[-] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 20 points 11 hours ago

No, but they'll turn it ON again with next update...

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 20 points 15 hours ago

Hahaha. "Off."

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago

They'll just turn it back on with an update in a couple weeks.

[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 16 points 15 hours ago

only microsoft would nest "Trust Center Settings" in the "Options -> Trust Center" panel. or even worse, put "Privacy Settings" as a sub-menu of "Privacy Options".

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 10 points 15 hours ago

Just click this setting! ... at the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard.'

Why would you pay this much money to be treated this badly?

[-] DemBoSain@midwest.social 1 points 7 hours ago
[-] mystik@lemmy.world 19 points 18 hours ago

There was literally a movie about this, the evil corp resembled Microsoft, right down to a Bill Gates lookalike CEO. Miguel de Icasa was in it with Ryan Phillips

[-] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 30 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Antitrust (2001) staring Ryan Phillippe

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 17 hours ago
[-] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 11 points 16 hours ago
[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 16 hours ago

It was an accurate spelling for pronunciation at least!

[-] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 8 points 16 hours ago

I literally went and watched the trailer and saw the mistake and still completely dyslexiaed it up

[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

It's not JUST that. I've had to disable it in the past for something, can't remember what. Something had broken. But that's why it's not called AI services.

Why they don't separate it into different options I don't know. Or rather it's obvious.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

Why they don't separate it into different options I don't know.

Because they don't want you turning it off. I seriously doubt they'll actually let you turn it off.

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 7 points 17 hours ago

Does this also apply on Word/Excel on macOS?

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Go check and let us know!

[-] vin@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 16 hours ago

Unlikely it's for AI training, where are they getting that from?

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