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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by zyratoxx@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Depending on how the next four years go I'm on the fence between Bush Jr. and Trump but I'd like to hear from you

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Top 10 suggestions so far (unordered):

  • Andrew Jackson
  • Andrew Johnson
  • George W. Bush Jr
  • Ronald Reagan
  • Richard Nixon
  • James K. Polk
  • Woodrow Wilson
  • James Buchanan
  • Franklin Pierce
  • Donald J. Trump
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[-] Castor_Troy@hexbear.net 3 points 10 hours ago

No one said Buchanan.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 21 points 18 hours ago
[-] NeoToasty@kbin.melroy.org 17 points 20 hours ago

George W Bush Jr.

Yes I am handing him the worst president title, even over Trump.

Because, it was his mishandled War on Terror, that plunged the country into massive national debt. He crashed the housing market. He literally had waged a war on obese people, minorities and other things as distractions from his failure to capture Osama. He allowed American Surveillance with Patriot Act I and II. His cabinet were all crooks and he was just a dumb puppet.

He is essentially the ripple effect of everything we're dealing with today and Trump is merely the symptom of that.

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 6 points 3 hours ago

He allowed American Surveillance with Patriot Act I and II.

People at the time were begging for that. There were a very, very few civil libertarians that realized just how dangerous those acts would be, but the people, as a whole, were really behind them. Just like the people went in gung-ho for the start of GWoT.

He is essentially the ripple effect of everything we’re dealing with today and Trump is merely the symptom of that.

I'd put that at the feet of Reagan first. Reagan was the one that cozied up to the 'moral majority', which was based in racism and misogyny, what with Bob Jones University being forced to desegregate. That's where the birth of the alt-right (which I guess is now just mainstream Republicans) happened.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 8 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Trump is definitely in the bottom quintile, but also anyone putting him in the bottom 5 is just recency bias.

[-] zyratoxx@lemm.ee 8 points 20 hours ago

Most people who argued for Trump said it's because of Jan 6th and his other felonies and that he was allowed to run again and became reelected (even tho a partition of the us citizens are to blame for the latter). I also think people already value him lower because of Project 2025 and out of fear what will happen during his 2nd term.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Wasn't it Nixon who sold the americans out? Or Truman?

[-] watson387@sopuli.xyz 83 points 1 day ago

Ronald Reagan did more damage to this country than any president before or after him.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Just wait until the turd tanks the economy 1920s style.

[-] AndrasKrigare@beehaw.org 23 points 1 day ago

I'm continually shocked by how often I learn of some structural systemic issue, pull the thread to see where it started and- oh, surprise, it was once again Reagan.

[-] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 hours ago

Most of Reagan's agenda came from the heritage foundation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eeCPRD0Hgg&t=0

The capital class controls the heritage foundation and through their countless think tanks, lobbyist, donations, SuperPACs, etc they control the Republican party and even a large part of the Democratic party.

Marx was correct when he argued that economic democracy was necessary for political democracy. When the wealthy get to own the economy they have the entire country by the balls.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

Marx was correct when he argued that economic democracy was necessary for political democracy. When the wealthy get to own the economy they have the entire country by the balls.

Funnily enough even Adam Smith warned about that even before capitalism went in full swing.

[-] Cube6392@beehaw.org 1 points 1 hour ago

Adam Smith: you gotta bust up monopolies because competition drive's innovation

the rich: you heard the man! all the wealth has to be consolidated with us! greed is good!

[-] digdilem@lemmy.ml 13 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

It's no coincidence that Reagan and Margaret Thatcher had such a close relationship - they thought alike.

In Britain, Thatcher is still reviled by many for sweeping changes. Killed the coal industry without giving support to the many thousands employed there and put the North into recession, took milk away from children, depowered the unions (which were too powerful at the time, tbf) and generally put the Tory Party on the London & Banks first mantra that they've been on ever since.

[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 1 day ago

Before or after him so far

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[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago

George Washington. This thing should have been nipped in the bud.

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