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[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Professional Russia Watcher here. Russia is on the brink of collapse because line went up and then down.

[-] schoegge@feddit.org 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You realise that this graph shows how USD is gaining worth compared to the rubel?

This is what you actually wanted to show:

[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 day ago

I think their point is that the sudden peak in the graph a few days ago was not the beginning of a much bigger increase

[-] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 36 points 1 day ago

I wish I was one of those "experts" who gets paid six figure salaries to be wrong about things. Here I am being wrong about things for free like a shmuck

[-] Aradina@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago

You're a hobby wrongist, they're professional. They have wrongism degrees

[-] Hammocks4All@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago
[-] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

That's a whole 1.6 cents! Nice!

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago

Go back to one or five years and it's even higher!

But note that that's how many rubles you can buy with a dollar. If that graph is high, it means the value of the dollar is high relative to the ruble. Reverse them and you'll see that the value of the ruble has been falling relative to the dollar.

https://www.rt.com/russia/608299-ruble-dive-dollar-record/

[-] stink@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Why do people focus on 1:1 ratios like that? Doesn't this depend on the currency in circulation?

It feels like comparing Celsius to Fahrenheit and Kelvin, different numbers can still equal the same thing no?

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

The 1:1 thing is psychology, but it's not really in question here. The important thing is relative movement. If today I can take $1 and buy ₽1 worth of Big Macs, great. But tomorrow, if I can take that same $1 and buy ₽2 or ₽4 worth of Big Macs, I get more Big Macs with that same dollar. That means the dollar has more buying power than the ruble.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

How is that at all relevant given that Russia doesn't trade in dollars though? Also, as a follow up question, do you think having a weak currency hurts or helps when you're a major commodity exporter?

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

You tell me, you're the one comparing them.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

I'm simply pointing out the idiocy here https://lemmy.ml/post/23076839

The reality is that Russians are not actually affected by this because pretty much nobody in Russia holds western currencies, and the domestic economy is largely self sufficient. The only context this matters in is trade, and Russia is a major exporter, which means that domestic revenue for the government goes up when rouble is weak. Hence why rouble gets intentionally depressed pretty much every years, and people always get really excited about it.

[-] Gloomy@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Most, as you put it, "experts" point to inflation as a consequence, but I know shit about economics and don't know the mechanism behind it.

https://www.newsweek.com/what-does-rubles-sharp-fall-mean-russias-economy-1992933

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 23 hours ago

They just state inflation would be an outcome without actually explaining how that would happen. It's pretty clear these people are just parroting things without understanding them.

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