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[-] Whorehoarder@lemmynsfw.com 157 points 1 week ago

Didn't millennials watch it growing up? Someone's not getting their generational terms right

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 37 points 1 week ago

Hell, I was even old enough when it was airing to think it was overrated then.

[-] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Seinfeld is one of the best sitcoms of all time.

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[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Generational labels tend to divide by arbitrary boundaries more than actually give you insightful information about something exclusive to the group.

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[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 109 points 1 week ago

Ummmm, the whole point of the show was that the people were horrible.

The show ended with them jailed after they made fun of a guy who was getting mugged.

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 64 points 1 week ago

The gang on It's Always Sunny is worse but they are obviously not people we're supposed to empathise with. It's quite a bit less obvious on Seinfeld.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

Always Sunny was taking the idea of Seinfeld and dialing it up to 11.

[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 week ago

I feel like the distinction is that on Sunny the gang is “punished” for their shitty behavior, and on Seinfeld they basically never were. (I don’t include the season finale because that was just a cop-out to give the show an ending.)

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[-] glimse@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

I might be overthinking it but feel like Seinfeld was more a show about normal people who sometimes do shitty things - just like real life. I can't think of anything truly horrible any of them did on the show, just a bunch of "social" wrongdoing. Telling a secret, sleeping at work, the perfect comeback, etc. It's famously a show about "nothing"

Then IASIP is about a bunch of assholes riling each other up to be horrible for their own benefit.

I think Seinfeld is the more "important" in the grand scheme of television for it's groundbreaking approach but in a vacuum, IAS is the better show.

[-] hollyberries@programming.dev 17 points 1 week ago

Jerry purposely drugging his girlfriend so he could play with her toys was pretty shitty AND horrible.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago

Millennials are like 40 years old now. Does this article writer think Millennial just means "kid"?

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Millennials are like 40 years old now.

PS. I'm not actually 40 but I'm getting there before I even realise it.

[-] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 week ago

I just turned 40. It's fine. Same joints ache as when I turned 30, less heartburn (because I've figured out my triggers).

[-] Old_Yharnam@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

It’s worded like we’re all still in our early 20s.

It’s just hot clickbait garbage for boomers

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[-] cobysev@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago

Millennial here. I tried to watch Seinfeld back in the day, and I thought it was kind of meh. But there was one character I really hated on the show. He had a whiny pathetic voice, was always complaining about something or another, and was just an awful actor, unlike the rest of the cast. I thought, if they just removed that one guy, the show would be great and I'd enjoy it so much more.

I found out later, that guy was Seinfeld. So... I never really got into the show.

[-] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 week ago

THANK YOU! I can't stand that guy. His voice kills me and I never found him funny. Nothing against him personally, he might be a great person, but I can't understand how people can stand the content he makes.

[-] scoobford@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago

~~Good~~ news! Seinfeld is a pedophile and supposedly kind of a sociopath. He's also tried to hop on the anti-woke train a couple of times in the past few years.

The man made a major contribution to western cultus as a whole, but man is he a bastard.

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[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 week ago

He was definitely the weakest actor of the 4, and had the poorest story lines.

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[-] stinerman@midwest.social 43 points 1 week ago

It's weird that "this group of people don't like that show that you like" is supposed to create some sort of negative reaction. My enjoyment of a thing does not depend on a certain number of other people liking it.

I must be numb to "outrage is the best way to engage people" that everyone uses these days.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago

To be fair, Outrage Marketing does work, but it usually isn't this obvious.

Like when Disney announced that the Snow White remake would have Seven Multicolored Normal Sized Human People? And later it turned out the final movie will indeed have dwarves?

That was just done to get bigots talking about the flick. Wouldn't be surprised to learn Aerial being black in the newer Mermaid movie was the same thing. I mean it worked, people were too busy defending Disney from criticism for this move that they didn't notice the movie is, like most Live Action Remakes of Non-Live Action media, shit.

Hey Disney, bring back your 2D Animation, have them do another Lion King, then dub it over with the audio for the Mufasa film. I guarantee I'll actually consider watching the damn thing if you do that. (These Live Action remakes have got to be a Money Laundering scheme or something)

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[-] You_are_dust@lemm.ee 41 points 1 week ago

We were the ones watching it when it was first airing. I don't think there was anyone in my highschool that wasn't watching it.

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[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago

For the first time? We grew up with this show.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 26 points 1 week ago

Ya know how growing up, our parents called every system a "Nintendo", even if it was clearly a Playstation or a Sega Genesis?

Yeah that's what boomers do with age groups. Anyone younger than them is a "Millenial Zoomer on Youtube's TikTok app"

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[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 1 week ago

Are we talking about "Seinfeld", the slightly overrated comedy TV series, or "Seinfeld", the horrible human being?

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

What‽ I grew up on it and I'm as young as we get. No it's his current stand up that's in poor taste and one night of Kramer's stand-up that's actually offensive

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[-] dumbass@leminal.space 23 points 1 week ago

Would you leave us the fuck alone, we're old now!

[-] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Meh, Jerry Seinfeld has been pushing the "I'm too offensive for young people" and "I've been cancelled" nonsense for a while now. He's just old and not funny anymore. Turns out telling the same jokes for 30 years doesn't get a lot of laughs. What is the deal with millennials anyway!

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[-] A7thStone@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

I'm an Xer and I didn't like Seinfeld, but that's mostly because I don't like embarrassment comedy. It's the same reason I don't like Will Ferrel and Ben Stiller, but to each their own. I don't begrudge anyone else finding it funny, it's just not my vibe.

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[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago

I found it funny but curb your enthusiasm is much better

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[-] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago

Must be the youngest millennials then, this was airing live when I was a kid and apparently I’m a millennial.

[-] LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

most of my millennial peers were all in on Friends and thought Seinfeld was pretty much only for old people. it had its cultural moment but it was popular because pretty much everyone older than 30 in the 90s loved the show.

Basically people who are around 50/60 now were the ones who truly enjoyed Seinfeld.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 10 points 1 week ago

I like older shows and I enjoy it. It's definitely from it's time, the humor hasn't aged, but idk where they get the triggered millennials from

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[-] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 week ago

I watched the first episode and found it dull and boring. Is it representative for the whole show?

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 week ago

The past decade of tv has spoiled people with quality TV shows.

Back in the old days of tv, we didn't have story arcs. First seasons of shows were still rough. Networks often gave shows a lot longer of a lifeline to prove themselves. For example: Parks and Rec didn't hit their stride into mid-Season 2.

For 90s shows, I recommend finding a Top 10 episodes list and seeing if you enjoy it.

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[-] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

Some episodes are legendarily funny, but a lot are very forgettable. It’s more of a cultural bellwether.

Seinfeld was one of those shows that talked about certain issues that weren’t broached on network tv. I think the masturbation episode was the first time it was even alluded to on any mainstream tv.

But at the end of the day it’s a sitcom with laugh tracks, so it doesn’t age super well.

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[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Not really, the pilot is the weakest episode I can think of. Not that it turns into an action thriller or anything, but the plotlines and characters certainly get zanier and (arguably) funnier.

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[-] noxy@yiffit.net 16 points 1 week ago

They said "not that there's anything wrong with that" about gay people in the 90s. WAY better than most of the shit at the time.

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[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago

it's the laugh track that's offensive.

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[-] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Even when it aired, it was walking the line of generally offensive. That line didn't have to move far to tip the show out of favour on average. Seinfeld himself addressed it, initially being upset that his brand of comedy was falling out of favour, but eventually coming to terms with the fact that he himself was out of touch and would benefit from adapting.

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago

Has he? Last I heard he was still complaining that "yOu CoUlDnT dO sEiNfElD tOdAy BeCaUsE wOkE" with Rob McElhenney begging to differ.

[-] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/celebrity/jerry-seinfeld-said-regrets-comments-blaming-extreme-left-ruining-come-rcna175678

Hopefully that link isn't broken or bad. But yeah, he basically said he was wrong and out of touch. And that he could stand to make an effort to get with the times.

His style of comedy has always been about finding where the current edge is and seeing how far you can cross it and still be funny. But the drawback is that the edge moves. So you have to keep seeing where it is, and what you said 10 years ago probably isn't funny anymore. It's normal to get frustrated when something you put effort and work into is no longer seen as a good thing even though it was liked well enough at the time. But he really should have expected that result. And I think he knew that when he made it, but had since got caught up in the false validation that can come from being out of touch.

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That right there is some clickbait. I'm millennial and I was watching the show when it was on and loved it.

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[-] ReCursing@lemmings.world 11 points 1 week ago

Millenial here, I always just thought it was shit!

[-] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 week ago

I feel like a lot of you assume I'm younger. I'm closer to 50 then I like to admit. I'm just not from the US, maybe that is part of why it didn't click with me.

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